So unless you've been hiding under a rock in respect to the trucking industry here in Ontario, the OPP have launched the "Safe Trucking Campaign" in response to a number of truck accidents that have have resulted in an necessary number of fatalities. It's suppose to be all in the name of "safety", but it seems to me like the contrary after my father was handed an obsene ticket during this "campaign". To paint the scenerio, it's late evening in Central/Northern Ontario. It snowed recently and the temp is in the negative teens. The roads are still questionable with them being wet and shiny. My father, loaded almost at max gross of 140,000lbs is taking it cautiously. Speed limit of the road he is on is 80kph. Driving to road conditions he keeps it in the 50-60 range especially knowing (and I'm sure most of you know) how spotty the road maintenance can be in the North. When out of nowhere the OPP plays it's symphony every person dreads.
Officer: "Evening sir, do you know the speed limit of this road?"
Driver: Yes officer it's 80. Can I help you?
Officer: "Your doing way under the speed limit! I'll have to do an inspection. When was the last time you had an inspection sir?
Driver: "Last week! At the Burlington Scale."
After inspection...
Officer: "So you've passed the inspection. But you were doing way under the speed limit. Here is your $1xx.xx fine."
Driver: "Excuse me?? I have over 90,000lbs on the trailer. I do not feel safe doing 80 on this road that could have black ice on any corner!"
Officer: "If you have an issue with this ticket you can take it to court and fight it there. Good day!"
So what does my dad get for trying to be safe during this Canadian winter- a fine of over $100. It seems to me that this campaign was more about collection of fines and tickets than about safety (as usual with a campaign like this I suppose). I hope nobody was given a dummer ticket - but I have my doubts! I bet the OPP gives tickets like these just because they know a trucker doesn't have the time to go down to the courthouse to fight the fine...
Anyway, anyone care to share their experience from this past week or any other time with fines? I'd love to hear something as stupid as this.
OPP Calling for Safety. But are they?
Discussion in 'Canadian Truckers Forum' started by 6rider, Dec 17, 2017.
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This is a good example of why to record such interactions...
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Was the ticket issued under the Ontario Highway Traffic Act Section 132?
Unnecessary slow driving prohibitedYour dad is going to have to go to court to fight that ticket, not just on principle but to have the ticket removed from his driving record. It's likely the cop who issued the ticket will not even show up in court and the ticket will be thrown out. If for some reason the cop does show up, all your dad has to do is tell the judge that he was driving at a rate of speed necessary for safe operation of the truck in the circumstances and the ticket will be thrown out.
132 (1) No motor vehicle shall be driven on a highway at such a slow rate of speed as to impede or block the normal and reasonable movement of traffic thereon except when the slow rate of speed is necessary for safe operation having regard to all the circumstances.
What's more than likely is that the OPP has assigned inexperienced cops to truck enforcement duty and they don't have a clue about trucks.
I have had some completely bonkers tickets issued to me by clueless cops. I went to court and had the tickets thrown out. All in a day's trucking. I wish the court costs for fighting wrongfully administered fines were tax deductible.Last edited: Dec 17, 2017
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See this is exactly my point. Why would my father take 2 days off losing more than twice the tickets worth in revenue? He has never had an accident in his 30 year driving career and is retiring in less then 2 years. A ticket like this doesn't change much. Just an annoyance the industry is exploited like this. -
It may cost thousands to fight a small fine but if you don't fight it you are contributing to the delinquency of cops and you will have that on your conscience for the rest of your life.Last edited: Dec 17, 2017
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Your father should have contacted JP in the area. Get the ticket dismissed. Now he has may have to go to court or contact court house and they may be able to direct him.
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Reviving oldish threads!
Just say to the young ones that you know their parents. I live up here and said that... "Heres your logbook, have a good day!" make sure your old enough though!
another good tactic is to say quickly "want to see the logbook?" and since they are there to disagree with you, generally they will say "no, im sure its ok." then ask "how about a safety?" Make sure you have a good truck though.BigHossVolvo Thanks this.
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