8-Day Exempt

I don't know the correct answer, but I equate "day" as date....if it occurred on two different dates then yes it would count as two of the eight.

One other question that I have is suppose I run over the eight days out of thirty twice a year. Am I supposed to comply if I ever do that, or if on average I do that.

Our trucks are all exempt due to age so this is a moot point for us, but I am curious.

 

on the 100 air mile radius exempt rule
no log necessary if you return to home office where you started in 12 hours
if you go out futher than 100 miles and return to the home office in 12 hours,fill out a typical log sheet (8 times in a 30 day sliding scale.)

to qualify for the 100 air mile radius the driver must be back daily to where he starts from in a 12 hour period.
If you go out 700 one way,fill out a log sheet and you really need a eld to do that

 

hey oxbow,if they never check you on the road,the only way you can get caught is if they audit you and find it there,then they may go back only 30 days

 

Atta Boy- Finally,Someone other than me Standing up for something that's Right

 

That's exactly what my boss said. I could care less one way or the other, I've used Elogs before and didn't mind them.

 

Ok. So if you run out 400 miles one day, and back the next, that's 2 days. If you did this each week, nothing else, that would be 8 days, paper logging. Would you then need to do a paper log sheet showing 5 days off duty? Or not do a paper log at all for those 5 days off duty?

 

If you're running under the local short haul exemption when not doing your 400 mile one way run, then no, you don't need to about the previous day's.

 

Well, if you have a paper log showing 5 days off duty, then you are logging more than 8 in 30....
You might be able to get away with claiming short haul exemption, but an officer might not accept off duty as short haul.. This is defiantly going to be one of those grey areas that each officer will handle different I think.

 

Let me hopefully add some clarity to this. If you run most of the month under the 100 air mile exemption, and no more than 8 days out of 30 over that, then you do not need an ELD. For the days you are over the exemption, you must fill out a paper log for those days. However, remember that although you don't need to fill out and carry logs on the days you are exempt, you must still account for those days, with either a timecard or timesheet back at your home terminal or domicile. You technically don't need to carry your timesheets per the rule, but you never know what an officer might require for you to prove that the other days are per the exemption. You basically have two options: 1. The officer should be able to contact your home terminal and have someone send over copies of your timesheets/timecards via email or fax. 2. If you travel in states where the officers tend to be jerks, you might consider getting copies of your timesheets for previous 8 days to take with you on the road when you exceed the 100 air miles and are running on paper logs.

We have a number of customers that cross state lines daily, always run under the 100 air mile rule, but used to do paper logs and now switched to our VDO RoadLog system. Why? Because they go into those states where they have local police that harvest tickets, and have even gone to court and lost because the local judge rules against them, and filing an appeal can take big bucks and time.