CAT leaving the "on highway" truck engine business
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wat i know is everyone has a liking some like cat some cummins all i know cat rules
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Cummins has not made a decent motor in........ hmmm, EVER! The big cams were a joke, the N14 was a improved version of that joke, and the isx is a waste of iron. Detroit? yes the 8V were awesome engines
, the series 60 was better but no powerhouse and dont expect it to run for ever. DD15..... HA with all the crap on it we'll see.
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Cat engines are over priced and under powered. The 1693 was an over weight hunk of iron and cat new it .The 550 Cat is over rated a good Cummin's will pull the wheels off it and leave it's tongue hanging out. The ISX is the only way to go.
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Yes if you wanna OH engines every 300-500k then it sure is the way to go. Id like to see ANY ISX OUT THERE come blow my wheels off, dont care what its got done.
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I do know the '07 C-15 ACERT (no regen system) in my T600 is proving itself to be a worthless pile. Less than 180,000 on it and here's what I've dealt with so far...
121k: Fan clutch replacement.
132k: Electrical harness fried itself leaving me with no power coming down I-70 into Denver. That was fun.
138k, 151k: Multiple studs snapping on the small turbo's manifold flange, eventually leading to a manifold replacement after they got tired of drilling studs out of it.
Since 162k: Perpetual check engine light that will go away for a day and come back. It's not storing any codes so the dealer is stumped.
179k: Just started eating coolant to the tune of 1gal/1000mi. I have to stop every couple days and add coolant or it will get mad and shut itself off going down the road. And it only takes up to 1.5gal at a time. This is very unsafe out in the hills; everytime i'm headed downhill it senses low coolant and it's a contest to see if i can get going uphill again before it kills the motor.
Since I've had it: 5.8-6.0 mpg regardless of how it's driven. Shameful in a T600, really. I could be loaded with 44,000 going through PA at 70mph and get the same mpg as with a 10,000lb load going through OH at 57mph. It boggles my mind.
I understand some break-in and teething issues but I think this motor is crap.2fuzy Thanks this. -
Spoke with an o/o who pulls cars with his N14 rated at 435 in his VN770. Loves it and he gets 7.0mpg w/o any doodling. My friend who has a c15 gets 5.9 with the power pack. Yes cats are good but with them leaving the market, cummins might be the way to go.
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(121k: Fan clutch replacement.) Isn't that a Paccar item?
(132k: Electrical harness fried itself leaving me with no power coming down I-70 into Denver. That was fun.)Was it the Cat engine harness or the Kenworth truck harness?
(138k, 151k: Multiple studs snapping on the small turbo's manifold flange, eventually leading to a manifold replacement after they got tired of drilling studs out of it.) They have an update for that,I think its under warranty.
(Since 162k: Perpetual check engine light that will go away for a day and come back. It's not storing any codes so the dealer is stumped.) Replace the VVA pressure sensor.
(179k: Just started eating coolant to the tune of 1gal/1000mi. I have to stop every couple days and add coolant or it will get mad and shut itself off going down the road. And it only takes up to 1.5gal at a time. This is very unsafe out in the hills; everytime i'm headed downhill it senses low coolant and it's a contest to see if i can get going uphill again before it kills the motor.) Check for leaks.
(Since I've had it: 5.8-6.0 mpg regardless of how it's driven. Shameful in a T600, really. I could be loaded with 44,000 going through PA at 70mph and get the same mpg as with a 10,000lb load going through OH at 57mph. It boggles my mind.) And you're whining??
Any more problems?droy, C16KIWI and 550hpW900L Thank this. -
I know a guy that has a Signature 600.Well,he wanted to replace all his injectors,called Cummins,they have only 1 injector any more,they quit making them,and he has to spend $4500 American to update his wiring harness,fuel and timing actuators so he can replace injectors.Yep,way to go alright.C16KIWI, 550hpW900L and droy Thank this.
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