CAT leaving the "on highway" truck engine business

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by James R. Hoffa, Dec 10, 2008.

  1. CaterpillarWrench

    CaterpillarWrench Light Load Member

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    Don't you have a Cummins or a Detroit to nurse up the hill at 35 mph with the 4-ways on? Instead of harassing honest hard-working people.
     
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  3. James R. Hoffa

    James R. Hoffa Light Load Member

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    You guys do realize trucking is a business. Blowing someones doors off? Who cares?
     
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  4. CaterpillarWrench

    CaterpillarWrench Light Load Member

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    Ask around,I'm sure you can find plenty of drivers that do.
     
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  5. James R. Hoffa

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    You know how many 3406 engines I have seen that still ran great but were leaking coolant from around a cylinder liner into the pan. Cat never did get those o rings right.

    I have seen them with as little as 300,000 and losing coolant like that.

    Cat, Like I say, no great loss.
     
  6. James R. Hoffa

    James R. Hoffa Light Load Member

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    I know they do, But that BS doesn't put money in the bank.

    I find that my truck is faster than your truck stuff to be juvenile.
     
  7. CaterpillarWrench

    CaterpillarWrench Light Load Member

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    No,I don't,how many have you seen? I just got done inframing one that had 920,000 on and was never apart before.
     
  8. James R. Hoffa

    James R. Hoffa Light Load Member

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    More than I can count. I run a Landoll and a detach. I pick up lots of trucks bought by salvage dealers at auction. Start them up and drive them on the trailer, but the dipstick looks like it is covered in cappuccino.

    Get them back, drop the pan, pressurize the rad, and low and behold, another 3406 with bad liner seals.

    I think going back over the years there have been a few class action lawsuits about that.
     
  9. 550hpW900L

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    And you know why that is? Because rookies who have no clue about engines run their motors without watching gauges and run in 110*F heat without even touching the manual fan, wait for the AUTO to come on at 217* and keep gouging on it. Over heat and bye bye O rings. This is not a CAT issue only its every engine out there. The masses are ######### as someone said.

    I watch my temps and i am pushing over 1000 crank hp out of mine, no issues and that goes for my 2 previous ones. Had a N14, thanksm almost put me out of business. And as far as the cummins=better mpg argument, give me a ####### break the 525hp N14 i had got worst millage than any 550 CAT i had and shut down on every hill do to high oil temps. :biggrin_25517:

    That being said i got 6.2mpg average (paper and pen) running a 4500 mile trip, with 80k lbs, over the mountains and get over 7mpg local out of a truck with building like aerodynamics and 6 feet gap between sleeper and trailer.
     
  10. James R. Hoffa

    James R. Hoffa Light Load Member

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    Hmmmmmmmm,

    the origional engines in the early 70's were built with EPDM seals, but the oil attacked the EPDM.

    Then they went to Viton I believe. But the Viton couldn't handle the abrasion from the silicates that dropped out of the coolant and sat down around the O-rings.

    Then they tried HNBR which was a little better but still a lot of failures.

    After that they tried moving the seals around a little but I lost track at that point. I only have to see yellow to know that it is junk.

    And a truck engine should be able to be driven by truck drivers. It should be as simple and trouble free as possible to operate.
     
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  11. The Challenger

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    Mr. Wrench,

    Doesn't Cummins issue any notices on the parts they are going to stop making? If not, then they need too. However, I have heard nothing bad about a cummins from a truck driver. Heard bad things about a Detroit but nothing related to cummins nor cat.

    Hunter
     
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