HELP! My ticket problem - bad to worse!

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Boomerang, Dec 8, 2008.

  1. lilillill

    lilillill Sarcasm... it's not just for breakfast

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    Stranger, put your hands behind your back... you're under arrest. I'm with the Tennessee Bureau of Crackdown on Geezers Who Didn't Pay Thier Tickets Many Moons Ago. :biggrin_25511:

    Don't make me beat you to the ground.
     
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  3. witchwaywest

    witchwaywest Medium Load Member

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    Because your traffic citation was minor you should have legally been able to use your bond card or your drivers license.Illinois law allows you to surrender your card or surrender your license as collateral if the offense is minor.Yours is not considered serious.I guess by your own admission you are guilty of the traffic offense but you still might want to fight it.When you do go to court, do mention to the court that your bond card was refused.Maybe the judge could then enlighten the officer about Illinois Law.For a simple guide for you,search cyberdriveillinois(DMV)once there,in the search box,type in (rules of the road chapter eight.If you want more detailed info ,do a search for Illinois bail schedules and traffic offenses.If you want an even more detailed answer you can search Illinois Supreme Court rule 526.
     
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  4. Boomerang

    Boomerang Bobtail Member

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    First of all, thanks to all for responding. I've looked and looked but can't find anywhere that says they can't take your license as bond. I have a bond card.... he wouldn't take it. Can anyone point me to where the law says specifically that they can't or are not supose take my licence. Or where it says I must be in possession of my CDL.

    Thanks!
     
  5. rookietrucker

    rookietrucker Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Here is something I found on illinois secretary of state website>

    Here is FMSCA website on CDL licenses>

     
  6. witchwaywest

    witchwaywest Medium Load Member

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    It's a long process to search Illinois Vehicle Code or statues but you should have had the option of paying cash,bond card or license or credit card.As far as having your CDL in your possession it's a federal law.However if you are cited for this violation and you can show the court that you were in possession of a valid CDL but not on your person at the time, you will be found not guilty.Go to FMCSA,search 383.51.
     
  7. shredfit1

    shredfit1 Road Train Member

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    So, the law states that 'you' have an option to choose how to make restitution for said citation. However, it appears the LEO made the choice for him/her.

    Is there a law that states, if a driver gets lippy with LEO, they forfeit their right to choose?
     
  8. CHHALL3

    CHHALL3 Light Load Member

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    WOW, now that sounds scary!
    We ALL may have to have a hand held video camera in our possession whenever they "choose" to pull us over for any reason. Not illegal to tape anything in car and the police is taping what is happening in front of them, but you can tape everything little conversation with a law enforcement officer in your car for your protection in case things get heated or your dispute with the law enforcement officer does not match in court. This videotaping is only to protect you, why else would you tape it? "They pull me over, I am going to protect Myself!" I like the idea mentioned above, call 911 right away, if this were done to me, I would obtain the name of the city policeman/county sheriff/state patrolman that pulled me over and resolve right then and there. Never know if you are pulled over 10 min later and without a license, you would be really in a jam.
     
  9. Boomerang

    Boomerang Bobtail Member

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    I've been told (by several including the Iowa DOT) that I must have my CDL in my possession, period! This is what I can't find. I've found what the fine for not having it is, but does it say anywhere in the reg's that I have to have it in my possession?

    Help! and Thanks!
     
  10. witchwaywest

    witchwaywest Medium Load Member

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    Shred,Law enforcement has a lot of discretion regarding issuance of a summons.In the past I have been issued a warning when I know that the officer could have given me a citation.The thing you call "lippy" is the same as having a bad attitude when pulled over,it won't be toward your benefit.Even if you are issued a summons, a good attitude might get a reduced charge.There is no law on discretion that I have seen but here's another example.
    1.You receive a summons
    2.You had a bad attitude when receiving the summons
    3.The officer writes on the back of the ticket N/D
    4.N/D means No Deal,meaning that while in court you won't be able to plea it down to a lesser violation because of said bad attitude
    5.There is no box on the ticket to convey this.The officer simply notes N/D on the back of ticket and the court or the prosecutor picks up on it.
     
    shredfit1 Thanks this.
  11. shredfit1

    shredfit1 Road Train Member

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    Are you serious? This described action certainly seems at very least, unconstitutional... and may border on Totalitarism.

    Just think, 70 some years ago... A "J" or "Jude" was scribed on certain individuals credentials, which led to these individual being treated differently by certain authorities in Nazi Germany... Is this where our country is headed?

    I'm NOT sticking up for someone that lipped-off to a LEO... My concern is based on the covert nature of the N/D (no deal=no dice). Stuff like this really scares me!

    :biggrin_25525:
     
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