CAT leaving the "on highway" truck engine business

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by James R. Hoffa, Dec 10, 2008.

  1. mudhog

    mudhog Light Load Member

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    Sounds like your trucks maybe old too. Cummins mechanically governed trucks haven't been available since the early 1990s. Are your trucks gliders?
     
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  3. James R. Hoffa

    James R. Hoffa Light Load Member

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    Yeah trucks are old. 88 and 93 LTL9000 Fords. Trailers are all 2000 or newer, except for the Great Dane flat. I think that is an 86. Strong old trailer though.
     
  4. James R. Hoffa

    James R. Hoffa Light Load Member

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    Yeah the little baztaerd leaves hair all over my bed, and wakes me up at 3AM because he wants out.

    I owned a truck with a 3406E about 3 years ago but I only bought it to sell it. I think I owned it 3 weeks.

    And I had some 1160 and 3208 powered equipment over the years.

    Lots of R and DM Macks years ago. I loved those "2 valve" 672 Cubic Inch Mack engines. With a AB APE injection pump and a little bit of work I could make thos things pull like there was no tomorrow.

    newer 4 valve motors were ok, but not as bullet proof. And the AB PLM pump was junk
     
  5. CaterpillarWrench

    CaterpillarWrench Light Load Member

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    Says the anti hot-rodder who thinks its juvenile to have a truck thats faster than somebody else.Sorry,bud,but with "a little bit of work" a C15 would pull 'em backwards up hill.
     
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  6. James R. Hoffa

    James R. Hoffa Light Load Member

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    Hey I was like 25 and stupid then.

    Now it comes down to how much revenue did the job bring in. Not whether or not somebody passed me on a hill. The trucks actually make more money sitting still than they do moving.

    And there were no C-15s back in the day.
     
  7. C16KIWI

    C16KIWI Medium Load Member

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    A view from down under.
    For a start we are tiny compared to the USA and about 4-5 years behind with engines.
    The company I was contracted to last year was about 50/50 split C-15-C12 and ISX 475,520,565,580and Sig 620 over about 300 trucks.
    C-15 problems: Turbo
    ISX/Signature problems:Very bad oil comsuption,Cracked blocks,Exhaust manifold gasket failures,Rebuild about 150k miles before a C-15.

    The Cummins did get better fuel economy and perform well if you drive it hard.Most of them had the rings replaced to stop oil comsuption.

    Caterpillar are far cheaper to fix and quicker to get going,more relaxed to drive and willing to pull of an intersection at 1000rpm where a ISX wont.
    Some people over here wont touch a Cummins ever again and the same for CAT each to ther own
    On the subject of "hot rodding" its all about playing around with the engine so it suits you not about how many trucks you can pass.
    When I built my engine up I could not belive the people who would rubbish what I have done.....Jealous??? I think so.
    Least CAT engines give us a choice to uprate HP if we want to.
    I rate the ISX/Signature I think its a good engine BUT Caterpillar suits what I want to do and how I drive.
     
  8. CaterpillarWrench

    CaterpillarWrench Light Load Member

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    Well consider this my thrifty friend.Usually after we're done tuning a C15 to the point where you would say its juvenile,they get a half mile to the gallon mileage improvement,sometimes more.Let me think,is that not increasing revenue? I like Cat engines because they are reliable if properly maintained,and they can be tuned to the customers liking for a fairly reasonable price.You say you don't know why ANYBODY is making truck engines anymore.Why did you even start this urinating competition?Maybe your trucks should'nt be parked so much,wait,they have Cummins engines.Might as well park em and make room for the rest.:smt065
     
  9. Rat

    Rat Road Train Member

    Why is it that so many are dumping the cat powered trucks on all the for sale boards and papers? Truckpaper is completely littered with cat powered trucks.

    I have been shopping for my own truck for awhile now and finding anything decent without a cat is like pulling teeth.
     
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  10. James R. Hoffa

    James R. Hoffa Light Load Member

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    Jeeeezzzzze these kids have no respect.

    Why have trucks moving when you can have them getting paid for sitting still?

    Moving costs money in fuel, tires, brakes, clutches, etc,,etc,,etc. Not to mention dot checks, possible accidents,,,,,bla bla bla

    Sitting still on a jobsite they are still making the same amount of money but the cost is almost nothing.

    Waiting on a crane, waiting for the railroad to give you a track outage, waiting for the power company to turn off an overhead line so the crane can make a lift.

    And then there are the rigging jobs. When I take a forklift out to lift a machine, do you think I stop charging for the truck when I get to the job?

    Hell no, The truck is getting paid while I am out running a forklift or disconnecting a machine.

    #### forklifts are money makers.

    But hey if racing down the road blowing smoke gets your rocks off,,,,,,,,,,,,,well what can I say
     
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