Is there a "BUFFER" to get to the next truck stop when the driving as no more hours ?

Bull####. If that’s true, then shippers and receivers have the responsibility to leave a driver enough time to get to a safe haven.

This industry is a ####ed up mess and grows worse with each new piece of legislation. As I’ve said before, I hope it burns to the ground.

 

Safe haven, safe parking, truck stop... all one in the same.

 

When people start talking about regulations,. terms matter.... It's not all the same.

If someone says "I need to find a safe haven to park" that's fine. Terminology dosn't matter then.
If someone says "The law says you can go find a safe haven", it does matter.
Especially in the context of safe haven. Way too many people get tickets as they are flooded from truck stop counter stories about how one can use it to go over hours. After the hundredth time, it starts ringing true.
People in other threads are whining we don't act like professionals. Part of being a professional is using the correct legal terminology when talking about legal matters inside the profession.

 

Show me where in the regs a driver can break HOS because of the shipper / receiver? You won't fine it.

Simple fact is one should have left the docks earlier. At the 12th or 13th hour start making noise you have to leave. If you are not released in time, you simply leave. Leave the trailer if you have to and bobtail out.
There is no excuse, save breakdown of the truck/trailer, to ever have to blame a shipper/receiver on having to break HOS.

 

Yup... did that too. It's especially useful when attending large facilities where the truck entrance can be on a different street, or sometimes the facility address is the main office in a different building a couple blocks away.

 

Lol, I can tell you’re a young guy with your idealist perceptions of the way things should be.

It’s my trailer and I’m surely not going to leave it at a shipper or receiver because they are taking too long. I also like to eat and that requires getting paid for the load, which is hard to do when you run off without a proof of delivery.

 

Then you should be celebrating the implementation of ELDs, because they are going to highlight the complete train wreck current HOS rules are, and they will now have to be addressed, amongst other things.
It is indeed going to burn to the ground, and from the ashes a new phoenix shall arise.

 

This was helpfull did not know that the 11th hour was your oopsie hour

 

Welcome to Governmental regulations of technology. So many want to complain, or b--ch about the paper logs and cheating. At least with my paper logs i can fudge enough to get me to a truck stop, or other safe place where i can park without issues. I will sit back and wait for all the complaints, organizations OOIDA, an so forth to show the issues of those dreaded ELD's. I see the D.O.T, F.M.C.S.A and so forth changing or revising the regulations or stipulations to the ELD systems. I am so glad i do not have to deal with all the electronic devices in my fleet of trucks. Good luck to all those who have to deal with the systems.

 

Oh brother. (eye roll).

You must be a newbie