ELD, the best thing to happen to the industry since the 3406B

Discussion in 'ELD Forum | Questions, Answers and Reviews' started by AZ Pete, Jan 27, 2018.

  1. AZ Pete

    AZ Pete Medium Load Member

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    Now, according to the Wall Street Journal, all the whiners making excuses of why ELDs won't work because it doesn't allow them to break the law, why they are starting to be proven wrong, and shippers and receivers are already starting to get on the ball. So, all the whining lawbreakers were wrong.
    Adapt or go away. Either or, this industry is going to be forced to change for the better.
     
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  3. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    I appreciate your spirit.

    Now, it is better to consider a moment what you can do in trucking to avoid problems.

    First off, live loading, unloading and dock waiting has to stop. You can hire on to particular employers that do drop and hook only or as we did one particular with McKesson who unloads and reloads right back to shipper in Memphis within one hour. With freight that is incredibly needful and important to go to sick people who require it that morning of delivery. No more sitting around grocery for us.

    That is one.

    Second, This is where FFE got into Hot Water with us at least once, but it's not enough for us to blacken them any more than necessary when they had several people tell us to hotfoot to Salinas CA Americold to load right now.

    The right now turned into a 50 hour odyssey waiting at the docks (There are two next to the shipping office door...) while the produce was cooled from the farm to temperature. We essentially burned the entire reefer fuel tank precooling and maintaining and we pretty much threw away the entire contents of two fuel tanks under he tractor in addition to being up constantly by shifts waiting for the shipper to walk out and say it's ready at any moment. Did we get paid for that? No. Did anyone mention that it's a screw up? No. Nothing. Just another week in trucking. When it rains it pours.

    That's two.

    The efficient way of doing things in this industry means a 100 dock reciever is operating with one forklift driver unloading everyone. It's what 20 minutes to pull pallets off a trailer? Times 100? Plus about another 200 waiting to unload at the dock? 15.00 dollar a hour labor for one man to unload 100 docks efficient.

    Back in the 60's we had teenagers walk up and throw around enough boxes at what? 10 cents a case? until they had the gas money, party money or money money enough to get them by. Maybe a few hundred teenagers in that 100 dock facility.

    But by god, the trucks elbow past each other coming and going with trailers scattering to the 4 winds around the USA day and night. Sometimes the gate lined up with trucks leaving and those wanting in. While 5 yard jockeys shuffled trailers in three shifts. This was a trucking company in baltimore way back when.

    That's three. Those days are gone forever.

    As far as the HOS.

    I think that the driver has been abused, stepped on and ignored long enough to where the HOS has no value. If you went by my employment record in trucking, half the firing is related in some way to HOS, either me quitting and moving on or being eliminated because the load wasnt done the company way. Note I said company way, not the driver way or the Uncle sam HOS way. There are 50 more drivers ready to take my tractor long after I have gotten back home.

    I have witnessed pilots being out of hours in the airport going to the hotel to get the necessary crew rest while the plane is deboarded. The people were told GTFO this plane until we get a new crew. However long that takes to round up a legal crew and get them to the plane. Then do the PTI in front of 300 people who could care less and want OUT of there now into the air. We're late.

    Imagine if the shelves become empty when the computer has dictated the truck stay where it is and it becomes late. Again. Shrugs. The best solution to that is to slow things down #### it. This Nation economically is by the short hairs now. People wont wait. They are happy to sit three months while the order is produced overseas in Asia somewhere, then two months on the boat to the west coast and suddenly they want it yesterday? It's not going to matter one day or the other day getting there. Excepting the poor schmuck being told, don;t worry about that annoying ELD. And rack up a stack of violations that will be swept under the rug. And dear doddering Uncle Sam is not any wiser. //sarcasm.
     
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  4. chimbotano

    chimbotano Heavy Load Member

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    No everyone here is a driver like you. No everyone has to be told what to do in order to be disciplined. Thanks to your mentality, big companies will continue to get bigger and stronger. your speech is for drivers and so call "o/o". the real O/O are safe and disciplined. Because real O/O (100%independent) we must take care of our business.
     
  5. shogun

    shogun Road Train Member

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    This is nice in theory, but what it boils down to is accountability. Without a legal binding contract, you won’t hold anyone accountable. My company’s biggest account hauls drop and hook, hundred of loads a day in and out of automotive plants. We and many other carriers hauling in there have been on ELogs for years, and it is still ridiculously inefficient. Then, they call the expedite trucks who can run 75-80 mph to bail them out of a jam.

    I am rarely impressed by new drivers to the industry these days.
     
  6. Oldironfan

    Oldironfan Road Train Member

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    @AZ Pete This is the dumbest conversation I've seen in a month.
    Keep wishing. And drinking that special kool aid. Not everyone needs eld. And not everyone needs paper logs, unless your eld malfunctions. So stop pushing your eld double standards on others who are not in love with eld.
    And yes I've used them before.
     
  7. Western flyer

    Western flyer Road Train Member

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    Couldn't have said it any better.
    Every you said is true.

    Paper log guy and cheap pulling freight guy are one and the same.
    Two outdated relics from the Stone Age
    Who combined together drive truckers
    Pay straight down and the hours they
    Work straight up.

    We can't get rid of either one of them
    Fast enough
     
  8. stayinback

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    Hey AZ Pete.............

    Not all Shippers and Receivers are going to "Change" To comfort the Drivers HOS.

    The Unionized companies will NEVER EVER Change the way they "Work"..........The Unons are stronger than any FMCSA Mandate.

    Go Load or Unload at a Union Warehouse and see what they say when you tell them "Lets go people, Shake a leg,Im on E-logs"

    Let us all know how that works out

    I Actually Hope this ELOG thing becomes a disaster.....Which it will, Never get the samwe kind of service as paper will- No,We don't Cheat...We Just make things Happen,Safely and Punctually.
     
  9. Oldironfan

    Oldironfan Road Train Member

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    Once again trying to shove your unfounded lies. Where is the evidence of such said nonsense. You must have a turnip for a brain. Your statement is opinion not at all any fact. The eld fans sure like to dish it out. Yet when someone non eld makes a stupid remark, the eld crowd acts likes little cry babies.
     
  10. snowman_w900

    snowman_w900 Road Train Member

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    You're a crybaby. Stick to your dry van.....specialized segments in this industry don't want/need your kind.
     
  11. stayinback

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    Now that's pretty good
     
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