ELD, the best thing to happen to the industry since the 3406B

Discussion in 'ELD Forum | Questions, Answers and Reviews' started by AZ Pete, Jan 27, 2018.

  1. AZ Pete

    AZ Pete Medium Load Member

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    Everything you said in this post really has nothing to do with ELDs. It has to do with inneficiant HOS that need a MAJOR overhaul. When are we going to get that through our thick heads? The ELD is just a tool that keeps track of your HOS status.
    I will agree with you about not being impressed with the new drivers in this industry. But I was never overly impressed with a lot of the old hands in this industry either.
     
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  3. stayinback

    stayinback Road Train Member

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    Why not? Please explain

    The Old Hands are the ones that sacrificed so much and gave their time to people-
    Something the new Gens Will Never understand.

    The Old Hands made sharing the road with other motorists and satisfying experience- The newer Hands make people Nervous.

    The Old Hands communicate, Have Conversation,Give advice.....

    So Again, The Old Hands are what?
     
  4. AZ Pete

    AZ Pete Medium Load Member

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    I don't pull a dry van. Over 25 years Ive pulled a dry van for 2 1/2 years on and off. And the last one I pulled was in 2004. And before you feel froggy again, no, I don't pull reefers either. last time I did that nonsense was in 99. And if you want to start with the who needs who, Im thinking the trucking industry as a whole doesn't need your kind.
     
  5. AZ Pete

    AZ Pete Medium Load Member

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    Many of them were. Many of them were NOT.
     
  6. snowman_w900

    snowman_w900 Road Train Member

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    With the mentality of yours, it wouldn't matter what kinda freight you pull. You're the type to bring low morale anywhere you go and in anything you do.

    ELD is a joke. There's so many technical issues With Them right now, alot of people, companies and DOT can't even keep them straight and figure them out.

    Tell me how that helps the industry? Righttt...It doesn't.
     
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  7. AZ Pete

    AZ Pete Medium Load Member

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    "We just make things happen,safely,and punctually" Thats sugar coating breaking the law.
    And unions have NO power, except in a democrat administration. The bad thing is, this republican president actually likes union guys. Thats sad IMO. Because union guys are a sad lot. And as far as union guys not wanting to unload you efficiently in a reasonable amount of time, well, if you put up with that with out being properly compensated, then thats on you. Not my problem. Its real easy, JUST SAY NO.
    And if everyone follows the LAW, or as you put it "comforts the drivers HOS"then those shippers and receivers will find out they either have to pay, or they won't get anyone to haul for them or to them.
    Jeeze, it isn't that difficult of a concept to grasp.
     
  8. AZ Pete

    AZ Pete Medium Load Member

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    Well, if you've chosen a system that doesn't work, that isn't anyones fault but yours. This isn't new technology. Its been around for about 20 years now.
     
  9. shogun

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    Actually it does, with respect to the issue that ELDs are changing the game according to your original post with regards to efficiency. It’s just not the case. Shippers and receivers do not care about how long the freight sits, or hold you up, unless it is time sensitive product.

    When a landmark court case establishes precedent and they use ELDs to remove liability from a trucking company or enforce detention time, then this might be the case. Otherwise, a trucking company has very little recourse besides filing on a broker’s bond or cancelling a load and deadheading.

    There have been a lot of companies on Elogs for years, it’s a small ripple. I don’t have an issue with the HOS, except for the unnecessary 30 break.
     
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  10. Western flyer

    Western flyer Road Train Member

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    Ahh the old dinosaur is mad.
    Can't cheat on the logs anymore and work 20 hour days
    Anymore and get paid for 10.

    It is what it is. Paper logs allow anybody in the trucking
    Chain to screw up without any responsibility.
    Then just dump it off on some idiot truck driver
    Who breaks all the rules and takes all risks.
    And he won't get a penny more for doing it.

    We've all been on paper logs. I've done it.
    Most everyone on here has done it.
    We know exactly what goes on.
    Everybody in this industry knows what goes on
    With paper logs.

    Can't handle the ELD, turn in your keys and go home.
     
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  11. AZ Pete

    AZ Pete Medium Load Member

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    And who's crying? Would you like a tissue?
     
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