Hey all. As the title says I’m a first time owner operator looking to purchase my first truck. I can’t afford to purchase and spec a new truck off the line so unfortunately have to purchase used. Gotta’ start somewhere, right?
Today I test drove a 2014 Pete 386 with a 455HP Paccar MX in it, 3.25 ratio and 240” WB. Lifetime 7.1 mpg on the truck. Over all I was pretty satisfied with the truck until we entered the local interstate and I accelerated up to 70 mph, which is the speed limit. I noticed as I got into the 60-ish mph range the truck began vibrating a bit the way on old car does when it goes fast. Should this be a major concern of mine? I know it could be something as simple as a tire wearing uneven or the tires being unbalanced etc. The alignment was a little off as it pulled right, which they’re going to fix if I decide to buy it. Could it be something more expensive like the drive train? Front shocks or an issue with the breaks?
Buying used I know is always a risk and I fully expect the truck to have issues here and there. Just didn’t expect the vibration on the test drive and I can’t shake it from my mind as it has me worried about buying it. Truck has 433,000 miles on it and previously hauled precut lumber and steel loads via flatbed all highway. Also has 5 months/67,000 miles left on the initial Paccar warranty. I’m planning to haul strictly 53’ dryvan ranging mostly 26,000 - 37,000 lb. Mainly running through Utah and states immediately surrounding it. Once in a long while back east.
Sorry so long winded. Any veteran advice is GREATLY appreciated! Thank you!
2014 Pete 386 First Time O/O Advice Please!
Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by BandBSowards28, Feb 27, 2018.
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Keep searching for the perfect truck, your gonna find many with close to the same mileage as that one cause when the warranty coverage is about to max out they get traded. Hauling those heavy loads that truck has definitely had a hard life and probably driven by a company driver who wasn’t worried how harsh the treatment on the truck he/she didn’t have to pay the repair bills. Try finding one owned by an owner operator who has kept all the service records. Good luck in your ventures.BandBSowards28 Thanks this.
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I’ve been looking for owner operator trucks but sadly they’re either out of my price range or too far away to even go take a look at. I agree 100% in your suggestion to look that way though. You’re probably right that the poor truck was driven hard by someone who couldn’t care less about it. Maybe I could give it the TLC it needs in its second life, haha! I don’t know....
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Look other places besides dealerships cause they sure know how to dress a pig up for the highest price at the market. Even an older truck, 1st question should be how many miles on the engine since the last over haul then don’t hesitate to ask to see the paperwork. If nothing to prove what they claim to be the mileage since the over haul then move on. Not only the over haul on the engine but the transmission as well.BandBSowards28 Thanks this.
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by the time they figure why is it vibrating, you will run out dry
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Sadly you’re probably right . I just want to get into this business and get into my own truck so bad...I’m not trying to rush by any stretch...already done a ton of extra woe and research and the like to even get to the point that I am...ready to get my own rig and get to work. Even though I know that what everyone is cautioning me on is good advice and that it’s mostly true, it makes a guy trying to get into this industry feel a lot of despair about it hearing all the negative possibilities. We all get it. Trucking is long, hard thankless hours...fighting traffic, DOT, burdensome regulations and almost no sleep...repairs, diesel costs and EPA regs...but deep down I love this job, even with ALL the BS...
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Do you have a job set up for the truck yet? Running Utah and surrounding states is a pretty terrible spot market. I’d be far more concerned with that. As a new o/o, there is no way I’d get into a used-up emission truck unless you’re going to have a $30k repair fund, or plan on taking it to PDI in St George, and dropping $5-10k. I’d buy a glider, and that’s what I did last year. I was down to a 14 volvo 730 with a Brunner’s rack and a 13 Western Star glider, same price range. I bought the Star and when I told the Volvo owner, he said I made a good choice. Lol. The Volvo had 350k miles and the Star had 520k.
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Yes, I have a job for the truck. One that will keep me quite busy actually. I estimate grossing $20-$24k a month. I’ve also made several lists of my start up costs and what I estimate to pay each month on diesel. I’ve tried to over estimate my diesel use, primarily by using the most expensive diesel prices out there right now (CA ). I’ve also put repair money aside each month in these estimates. I’m trying to plan and be as prepared as possible. I even intend to put two truck payments into my monthly expenses: one to pay for whichever truck I end up purchasing and the other set aside for replacing that truck eventually with a much better one. I’m in the fortunate position of being debt free right now. No car payments. Now house payments. No apartment rent. Just basic utility bills/food/cell phone and gas for my cars etc. I’m also able to count on a moderate side income through my wife so we’ve already discussed how everything I make as an O/O will largely be put right back into my business (I set up a L.L.C. on the advice of my accountant). The only reason I have to purchase used for my first truck is because I cannot get financing for anything as pricey as a new truck.
I don’t have 30K stashed aside for repairs on a used emission truck, but I’m going to have the ability to invest much of what I make right back into my business which will largely go to my equipment: repairing it/replacing it with something better. What do you mean by a glider? I’ve not heard this term before. -
And try along the way to learn how to repair what you can on your on, ask questions and watch someone to begin with. Mechanic shops especially dealerships will rape you! Knowledge will pay in the years to come. Trust me I’d rather work on my semi any day over my pickup.BandBSowards28 Thanks this.
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A glider is a new truck with a used drive train. 2 out of 3 of the following must be used: engine, trans, rears. No emissions on a newer truck, legally. My 2013 Western Star has a pre egr Series 60 Detroit. You can get a couple year old glider for emission truck prices, maybe a little higher. If Cali is part of your business plan, then a glider won’t work.
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