Anti-idling question

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by rjones56, Nov 23, 2008.

  1. truckerdave1970

    truckerdave1970 On Probation

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    couple things:
    how often have u seen a reefer unit that was quieter than a truck engine? hardly ever in my 15 yrs!
    when did the cargo we carry become more important than the driver that carries it? b/c thats what the law seems to say.
    i prefer to sleep in a cold truck, so what good is a bunk heater or electric blanket do me?
    if we can not get a good night's rest b/c we are too cold or too hot to sleep then we are not safe to drive the next day.
    i also have to use a CPAP machine. one nite without it would put me and anyone around me at great risk of a wreck as i cant sleep w/o it.
    if all these rules(logbooks, pretrips, idling, etc...) we have to comply with are for safety (yeah, right) and not just for the $ they make then surely they would not want drowsy drivers out on the highways.
    how would our country like it if we all refused to drive until we could get a good nites rest?
     
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  3. patriotforyou

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    You'll need to carry extra batteries if you want to run one of those oil filled portable radiators (they work nice), but you want to see if these have to be installed a certain way (you can't just put anything in there)? For the money you might as well buy one of those diesel personal heaters?

    You can't warm up a truck in ten minutes (otherwise you can do engine damage) so the laws are not even worth their salt as written?
     
  4. skipjack

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    is it legal to idle your truck in states or municipalities that have a 5 minute limit if you have a pet on board?
     
  5. Roadmedic

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    There are no laws for idling that allow it for pets.

    You can do a search and find more on the idle issue.
     
  6. Baack

    Baack Road Train Member

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    I merged your thread in with another one on this same subject
    Go back and read
    Some good info
    We do have a search feature Third tab from the right on the site tool bar
    Good luck
     
  7. truckerdave1970

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    I've been sitting at an airport this afternoon and noticed all the jets on the ground are idling! that just struck me as odd, since their engines are way louder than ours. does any one know how much fuel a jet engine burns idling or how much pollution they spew into the air?
    I guess that's ok if they waste fuel and pollute the air, just as long as we make these awful truck drivers pay, right???
    Just a dumb thought from another dumb truck driver!
     
  8. lostNfound

    lostNfound Road Train Member

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    Have you ever had to sit in a jet on the tarmac when it's hot & sunny or freezing cold out?! :biggrin_25516:

    Do you know what it's like to be in an aluminum cylinder for hours on-end with no air circulation, or heat??!! :biggrin_25516:

    Do you have any idea how uncomfortable it is???!!! :biggrin_25516:

    It's just like...

















    being in a truck. :biggrin_255:
     
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  9. GasHauler

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    This whole subject is a bag of worms. To say there are no laws for pet protection is just simply wrong. Sure you will not find any laws that address this subject when you're looking under the FMCSA laws or laws that deal specifically with trucks but you'll find some that deal with leaving a pet in a vehicle that causes harm to the pet.

    I took just one state, South Carolina, and there are laws there. Section 47-1-40 Ill Treatment Of Animals Generally. It's very vague but we all know the courts can use that against us. It basically says you can not provide an unsafe environment for any animal. Some other states I looked at addressed the problem directly but the law was set up more for people that leave pets in cars and go shopping.

    Here's the way I see it. If you're even going to be brought up on anti-idling it's going to be written by a LEO that is there for truck laws. Unless you're at Walmart or someplace like that and someone calls the animal control people. Either way you've got two laws going against you.

    If you want to fight a ticket for leaving a pet inside the hot truck I'm sure the ruling will go against you since you decided to leave the pet inside the hot vehicle. If you try to fight for idling and use the pet as a defense you could have taken the pet out of that environment and they don't care where. So you're ###### if you do and ###### if you don't.

    The APU is the best way or leave the pet at home. Until atleast they pull their heads out of the ground and make it safe for everyone.
     
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  10. Roadmedic

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    There are no provisions in the anti idle rules for it. But like you said, there are laws for the protection of the animal. You as the owner, should have gotten a motel room in order to protect the animal.

    The bad thing here is that the driver is not even considered in any of these anti idle laws. Companies are prone to not care what happens as long as the truck does not idle.
     
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  11. GasHauler

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    Safety is the issue and it's really getting scary out there. I've always supported other drivers but I told my wife the other day that times have changed and you can not trust truck drivers any longer. It's truely a shame.
     
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