Back from TMC orientation in south carolina

bangngears · Dec 23, 2008

kindsoul said: ↑

Regarding Carolina training, It must be nice. I had to get the run down on backing techniques, while standing outside in -4 degree temp with -30 wind chill. It was painful. It was times like those that I wish I was orientating in S.C.!
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LOL well when i was in south carolina it felt like south iowa. It was in the teens in the am and it felt pretty darn cold. I will say this you have to deal with the cold i was out the other day tarping and strapping a load in 10 below with 20+winds. OMG was it cold, i cant wait for spring

ScooterDawg · Dec 23, 2008

bangngears said: ↑

awww dont cry i never directed it at you...go change your panties
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I don't wear any panties..... how's that for an image? hehehehehe

bangngears · Dec 23, 2008

ScooterDawg said: ↑

I don't wear any panties..... how's that for an image? hehehehehe
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my eyes are burning

nahmakanta · Dec 23, 2008

kindsoul said: ↑

You can say what you want, Swift and Werner are both sketchy companies. To compare Swift and Werner with TMC is foolish. First of all Swift and Werner drive old, run down trucks and pull vans. TMC drives New Shiney trucks and pull Flatbed. You can try to throw stats in my face, but when I get pulled in by a DOT officer, I am not worried, because I have a new truck. Can't say that about Swift or Werner. Proof is in the pudding, or shiney new Chrome. Don't let it blind ya[/quot
if you were a journalist and not a super trucker in training you would be sued for liable or slander.
every post you enter is full of wrong information.
swift is not a dry van companey. they have dry vans but were founded as a steel hauling companey and have a very large flatbed dvision. and a small reefer division .werner i believe also has reefers.
i apoligize for throwing stats in your face. but the reason a lot of drivers come on this site is to get ACURATE INFORMATION of companeys .not opinions or second hand information.
the reason i started reading this thread was to see how life was like for drivers at tmc. then i saw you making all these false comments about companeys you have never worked at. which could be potentially damaging to someone who is looking for accurate information.
swift and werner also do not run any old tractors in their fleet for otr operations.
but the drivers are usually to busy driving to shine them up.
if you think all that shiney chrome and chicken lights are going impress the dot officer you have a lot to learn.
dot has a saying "if it looks to clean he"s probobley doing something dirty"
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Splenda · Dec 23, 2008

terrylamar said: ↑

Sure, I see your point. I don't think they should tell me how much I weigh, when I work, how clean I keep the truck and maintain their property, whether I do drugs or drink in the truck. TMC should be happy I came to work for them in the first place. I think I going to give myself a raise.
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#######, long hair has NOTHING to do with keeping a clean truck OR drinking doing drugs.

nahmakanta · Dec 23, 2008

ScooterDawg said: ↑

Hay there nahmakanta -

I would have to agree 100%. Just because a company has a number of bad drivers, it does not automatically make you a bad driver as well. And Hats Off to you for making it good while at Swift. You have done what many others have failed at.

I was intrigued by the safety numbers you were giving about TMC and Swift being so close together. That is rather interesting. I would however be interested to know how many drivers each company has. In essence, if one company has twice the number of drivers that another has, then statistically, you have to work with actual numbers rather than comparative percentages. i.e. Company A has 200 drivers and 10 percent are bad drivers. Company B has 100 drivers and 11 percent are bad drivers. Well that means Company A has 9 more Bad Drivers than Company. See what I mean?

Now keep in mind, although I am making these numbers up, I think you'll find that in comparing apples to apples, I may not be far off.

Let's say Swift is running 2500 trucks and TMC is running 900, ok? Based on those numbers that I made up and the %'s you provided, Swift had 423 trucks put out of service and TMC had 153 trucks put out of service. But the percentages remain intact. However the argument could be made that TMC had 1/3 as many trucks put out of service. See what I mean?

What I am getting at is statistics can be laid out anyway the author wants the picture to be painted. I actually have a pretty strong background in statistical analysis because of previous jobs, and I can promise you that what I am saying is correct. The numbers can be used to make something look really good or really bad. It just depends on what you want to the numbers to prove - either the positive or negative side of an argument.

I am not arguing that each company may have it's problems, and drivers have their faults. That is obvious. But in a true "across the board" comparison, it would be necessary to bring all of the players in the mix. Personally, I think it would be interesting to see the results.

SO no offense nahmakanta. But sometimes people put numbers out there that may not necessarily reflect the whole truth.

Personally, I think TMC is a good company. But guess what?!?! I think Swift is a good company as well. The quality of a company is not created by the driver. And I think that with the amount of loads that Swift has going on, they sometimes need to deal with "certain issues" that not-so-busy companies don't. And the more drivers you have, the higher the number (not necessarily %'s) of complaints and complainers will be.

All I can say is that if you are still with Swift, and you are happy, then I am happy for you and glad you are doing well. And the same goes for anyone else that is working for and happy with Swift. Far be it for me to dictate what is best for another driver.

Today, I got my pre-hire from TMC. Yeah, I am tickled to be considered. But that does not preclude me from knowing that there are other quality companies out there.

I wish you the best, my brother. And further, I wish for you and yours to have a fantastic holiday season. Safe travels and good roads to ya!
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i see your point about stats being pottentialy misleading. but as far as the fmcsa goes they also are aware of the number of units in each fleet and are able to put everything into perspective . thus the rating system of satisfactory unsatisfactory and good .
when and where do you go for orientation?
i hope you do a thred of your progress so we can get some accurate current info on tmc. i might join you.
good luck over there.
have a very merry christmas

cplmac2 · Dec 23, 2008

bangn I hope you keep this post updated with your progress in training, it would be nice to see this thread back on track. I'm heading to Des Moines on the 29th and obviously seeing how things go for others ahead of time is a nice luxury to have. Congrats and good luck.

Baack · Dec 23, 2008

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kindsoul · Dec 23, 2008

nahmakanta said: ↑

kindsoul said: ↑

You can say what you want, Swift and Werner are both sketchy companies. To compare Swift and Werner with TMC is foolish. First of all Swift and Werner drive old, run down trucks and pull vans. TMC drives New Shiney trucks and pull Flatbed. You can try to throw stats in my face, but when I get pulled in by a DOT officer, I am not worried, because I have a new truck. Can't say that about Swift or Werner. Proof is in the pudding, or shiney new Chrome. Don't let it blind ya[/quot
if you were a journalist and not a super trucker in training you would be sued for liable or slander.
every post you enter is full of wrong information.
swift is not a dry van companey. they have dry vans but were founded as a steel hauling companey and have a very large flatbed dvision. and a small reefer division .werner i believe also has reefers.
i apoligize for throwing stats in your face. but the reason a lot of drivers come on this site is to get ACURATE INFORMATION of companeys .not opinions or second hand information.
the reason i started reading this thread was to see how life was like for drivers at tmc. then i saw you making all these false comments about companeys you have never worked at. which could be potentially damaging to someone who is looking for accurate information.
swift and werner also do not run any old tractors in their fleet for otr operations.
but the drivers are usually to busy driving to shine them up.
if you think all that shiney chrome and chicken lights are going impress the dot officer you have a lot to learn.
dot has a saying "if it looks to clean he"s probobley doing something dirty"
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Are you married to swift or something. You add nothing to any conversation, but to defend Swift's good name?
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L.B. · Dec 23, 2008

kindsoul said: ↑

You can say what you want, Swift and Werner are both sketchy companies. To compare Swift and Werner with TMC is foolish. First of all Swift and Werner drive old, run down trucks and pull vans. TMC drives New Shiney trucks and pull Flatbed. You can try to throw stats in my face, but when I get pulled in by a DOT officer, I am not worried, because I have a new truck. Can't say that about Swift or Werner. Proof is in the pudding, or shiney new Chrome. Don't let it blind ya
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wow! I'm not an advocate for either company but around here I see Swift running new Volvos and I see a lot of new Cascadias with Werner on the side.

Now, about the drivers.....

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