5mph and I am on drive line .. Is that standard now?

"PC guidance" has always been around, carriers tried it, most abandoned it because too many abused it. I don't see that changing if it's made available to others. Granted it's especially helpful lease ops and owner-ops. but reputable larger carriers with company trucks will have lots of major abuses every week that can't be disregarded, if the decide to go with whatever "new guidance" comes down. New guidance can't/won't change anything as far as I can determine in terms of being easy to abuse.

At the very least it would have to have carrier policy distance limits and how many times a month a driver can use it without being written up.

 

Wow. I don't even have the PC option in my system. I don't see this issue with logging out as long as you don't let it catch you driving longer than 5 min or so. I have crept for some distances up to a mile trying to deliver on my ten. I always deliver on my ten hr break. Technically that is cheating. Totally realize that. This is the reality boys and girls. You can't play by the rules all the way. How elseeare you supposed yo make money? The DOT will give some leeway I'm sure. They did it on paper logs. I always showed arriving at my delivery and a post trip at the same time and they never said anything when I got inspected. They aren't stupid. They know the tricks of the trade. They know drivers and even conpanies will bend the rules to accomplish a mission. Here's something that nobody talks about: what about when companies edit the ELog for you just so you can get a load? That's the same thing as what drivers do. My buddy worked for a company in which they changed his drive time to which it gave him two hrs to get a load because he was out of hours. No regulations will stop anybody from trying to make money

 

Having a 2.5 hour Sleeper break (lumper unload) interrupted so you can drive a half mile to do the remaining 5.5 or 7.5 will cost us a lot of preplan pickups and ultimately money and customer trust. You can't always manage time to flip your schedule enroute, and sometimes flipping your schedule will not work well for the next load.

I'll drive 23 mph but refuse to drive 4 mph

It seems there are some who have no concept of what it's like dealing with critical appointment windows on virtually every unload and pickup, that can be any hour of the day.

 

And there's more who don't realize (care) that there is no such a thing as "critical" and they've been playing this BS for decades.. Tell some monkey that its important and the monkey will kill himself to get those paper towels to the settlers before the winter sets in... OH Please

 

It's not needed. It's not on paper logs either because it's not required. A driver simple logs PC driving time on line 1 because that's the correct status. They're off duty so whatever they're doing isn't technically logable.

 

Driver misuse / don't understand the personal conveyance option all the time also though.

 

As long as drivers keep donating their time and working for free the big companies will have no reason to increase pay and actually compensate you for what you do.

 

It's rarely a matter of "critical". Mostly it's a matter of providing reliable customer service and the reputation you work hard to develop as a carrier, and keeping your dispatch system running as efficiently as possible and the associated cash flow.

And don't tell me on-time service is rarely important. Walmart and Kroger and many others strongly disagree with that statement to the point of making it very costly to miss an appointment window and what the product is is irrelevant.

I realize there are A LOT of drivers who don't care a wit about customer service and maintaining a high degree of reliability as a truck driver in an trucking company but I'm not wasting my time trying to accommodate them in this discussion.

 

I get what you're saying but there is no need for a line 6 per se. That's all I'm saying. Personally, I don't think company guys should be able to use the option at all.

 

We load and unload every day, and 80-85% of what we do has appointments. If I get held up today it’s going to affect 2 appointments tomorrow. All it takes is communication. Usually there will be trucks that show up early so if I get held up today I’ll make a phone call with my eta and they will pull trucks in that are there before me.

That being said, I realize reefer is a whole different world and you’re dealing with places a lot larger than I am. I’m merely stating that a lot of the time people can provide good customer service and keep people happy without working for free to cover up for a shipper or receiver’s shortfall. What the majority puts up with is what will continue until people have had enough and force a change on how they’re paid.