Three more hours added to the fourteen hour duty status

Discussion in 'ELD Forum | Questions, Answers and Reviews' started by Billyjack, Apr 2, 2018.

  1. tucker

    tucker Road Train Member

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    You should open a store up where you live so your neighbors can shop there too without having to drive an hour
     
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  3. driverdriver

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    I can't imagine what you would be saying if we were still on 8 10 15 lol.
     
  4. Pedigreed Bulldog

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    Hell, I wish we WERE! Funny how these new rules are allegedly "safer", and yet only property carriers (100% replaceable commodities) are required to abide by them. Those transporting people (non-replaceable) are still under the old rules which worked well for several decades before somebody got a wild hair up their ### and decided to change things up.

    Change isn't always a good thing, and any changes which impose further restrictions upon liberty ought to be fought at every step.
     
  5. Pedigreed Bulldog

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    My first instinct is to tell you to take that smug attitude of yours and shove it up your ###, but despite you trying hard to earn that sort of response, I'm not going to do that as it might be interpreted as a violation of the forum rules. Instead, I'll politely state that my neighbors don't have the same needs as I do, because their situations are different from mine. For example, while I'm buying horse feed, they're looking for meth. I'm not willing to sell meth, and they don't have horses, so horse feed isn't something they'd be inclined to buy. In other words, it would not be a profitable endeavor to open up a store here in town catering to the things I need. If it were, there'd already be one in town.
     
  6. Ridgeline

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    Wow most of this sounds like people have a drivers mentality and don't seem to get that the hos is there to protect us from abuse. If it didn't exist, imaging what forced dispatch would truly become.
     
  7. 06driver

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    Negative. It is a general attempt to prevent fatigued driving.

    Drivers are responsible for policing driver abuse.
     
  8. 06driver

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    There is nothing in 395 preventing you from doing any of that.

    What you are saying is you can not make enough money when your off duty activities eat into the time allotted to work.

    Well charge more, or spend less. Because all this foolish rule would do is extend your working day. Get your work done then go shopping.

    By the way there is no where in Southern Illinois an hour away from a store unless your walking. No where. You can not go 15-20 miles from any little podunk bulb in this state to any other podunk burb.
     
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  9. spyder7723

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    Negative. Research the origins of hos.
     
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  10. spyder7723

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    Go find grain for your horse in Chicago and tell me how nothing is an hour away.
     
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  11. Pedigreed Bulldog

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    Perhaps you ought to re-read §395. There's a clock ticking away from the moment you start your day that currently cannot be stopped, and you aren't supposed to drive after that clock expires.

    Not even close. When I work, I do just fine. I'm just looking to make the most efficient use of my time. If I'm driving right past somewhere I want to go, why shouldn't I be able to stop while I'm there instead of having to keep rolling, only to hop into another vehicle and backtrack the same roads back to the place I just drove past? My time is valueable, so why would I want to waste it like that? And if being well-rested is so important (which it is), why would anyone (you specifically) argue that spending a good chunk of your break driving around going back to places you could've just as easily swung through while en route makes a lick of sense?

    Wrong again. My day isn't extended by stopping. If anything, NOT stopping extends my day because as I've been saying, I'd have to spend valuable time retracing my steps to get back to the store I just drove past on my way home.

    I'm not talking milk and eggs. Preparing to change the oil in the truck, the last store I pass on my way home that carries 5 gallon buckets of Delvac is an hour and 20 minutes from the house. If I go home and get in the pickup, there are 3 other locations of that chain that are a little closer, but not by much...each 45 to 60 minutes away. There is a store 30 minutes away that also carries them, but 30% higher on price. Then there's horse tack. There are 2 places that specialize in that sort of thing each about 45 minutes from the house in opposite directions, but that store that carries the 5 gallon buckets of delvac also has a few aisles of horse related items. When you're looking for specialized stuff, you aren't going to find it at any old corner store, and sometimes it's a little ways away.

    And again, it isn't about wanting to work longer hours...40-45 hours per week is more than enough. Things happen...have to chase an empty, roll up some tarps, wait to be loaded, or take the time to PROPERLY secure a complex load...and all the while that 14 hour clock is still ticking. When that happens, I shouldn't have to choose between racing the clock home and then burning through half my break chasing after what I needed vs grabbing what I need on my way home and violating the HOS.
     
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