Major Life Changes Possible in Near Future and Have Some Questions

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  1. ShortRound77

    ShortRound77 Bobtail Member

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    I'm new to the forums, and had a few questions.

    First, let me give you a bit of background...I have served nearly 14 years in the US Air Force (Since I graduated high school), and I am looking at possibly not being allowed to re-enlist when this enlistment is up in May. As you can imagine, this would be a huge change in my life. I have been interested in driving truck since before I graduated high school, but since I couldn't drive interstate until I turned 21, I post-poned the dream and entered the Air Force. I still want to drive truck, but now have a family to support/think about. I am okay with the long hours, and time away from home, but I'm concerned with being able to make ends meet on my income alone. In addition to regular pay I have to consider health insurance, as my wife has some ongoing medical issues. I would (believe it or not) prefer to drive OTR.

    On to the questions....

    1. Considering I have the Montgomery GI bill, does anyone have any advice as to what would be the best way to get my CDL/training. ie. Private trucking school, community college, or going to work with one of the training companies (as well as recommendations on which ones)?

    2. If I went with private taining or through a community college, would I be marketable to a smaller company, even with no practical experience, or would I end up having to hire on with one of the "driver mills" anyway?

    3. Does anyone know which companies offer reasonably priced health insurance with decent coverage? Would I be better off looking into private health insurance?

    4. What would be considered a decent cpm as well as mileage load for someone with my experience level? (hoping to make at least 35-40K, is this reasonable to expect?)

    5. Will my military experience help much with getting hired on with a better paying company?

    6. I have three possible locations that I am considering settling down in if I get out of the service they are, in order of desirability...Sandusky, Ohio...Bowling Green, Kentucky...and Eastern Nebraska. Of these three regions does anyone know what would be the most profitable, as ar as freight availability?

    I think that about covers the questions I have for now. I'm sure many more will crop up before I am on the road. Hopefully everything works out with my military career, and I will not need to hit the road for another 6 years, and I'll have my retirement coming in. Sorry if this seems long winded, or I am being unreasonable with my expectations, but these are things I have to consider given my current life situation. Any advice that can be offered would be greatly appreciated. Also if someone has more to offer, that perhaps I haven't thought about.

    Thank You

    ShortRound
     
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  3. 25(2)+2

    25(2)+2 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Welcome to the Forum, do not take the company sponsored route into trucking. A trucking school with more hours of study and driving provided it was accepted by most OTR companies would be the best fit for you given the circumstances. You will still need a training company unless you get with a smaller OTR company that will accept school grads, then the training would be to send you on easier runs first. I started with one of these for 30 cents a mile in 2004, you would probably be looking at something a little higher now, but you might not be able to do that well in this market, a few months from now, that should improve.

    I would go for the eastern Nebraska area first because of proximity to the Interstates in the area, freight is always moving in those corridors.

    The military background will probably help you with most employers.

    Why not consider getting a logistics degree instead of the CDL or with it?
     
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  4. Sid

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    Do you want to stay in the area you are in now? If so you could look into tankers, there is a lot of tanker movement in S.C. area. (This I know because I pull a tanker) But he's right go with the school, then look for the company. Most companies will hire you with good grades from school then put you through their training, some are paid some aren't. Good luck to you.
     
  5. 1nonly

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    35-40K is a little high, especially for the first year. Second year, maybe, but first year will be more like 25-30K, on average. You might get lucky, but don't count on it. Freight is low, loads are scarce. It doesn't matter what your cpm rate is when you're sitting in a truck stop with nothing to do.
     
  6. Hometime

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    My husband is in his first year OTR and will be lucky to make $30K. His first three months the loads were better. The last three months have slowly been downhill with less and less miles. December has been a killer. This week he may not break 1000 miles. The Holidays may have some impact on that but overall the miles have not been there. :biggrin_2552:

    We hope that things will pick back up but you should be prepared going in that your expectations financially may be high for starting out. Good luck. Take your time finding the right match company wise.

    I have some great friends from your neck of the woods! Would love to be out on the Santee Cooper right now! :biggrin_25525:
     
  7. chief

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    you have "dreams" of driving a truck??? this needs to be addressed before anything else. maybe some of the other guys can burst your bubble on this one.


     
  8. ShortRound77

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    First of all thank you all for taking time to address my questions and concerns.

    25(2)+2
    A trucking school with more hours of study and driving provided it was accepted by most OTR companies would be the best fit for you given the circumstances.

    Do you have any suggestions of schools that are well respected in the industry?

    You will still need a training company unless you get with a smaller OTR company that will accept school grads, then the training would be to send you on easier runs first.

    Again, any suggestions that I can research benefits, and pay etc...?

    Sid
    Do you want to stay in the area you are in now? If so you could look into tankers, there is a lot of tanker movement in S.C. area.

    I would not mind staying in the area, but the wife doesn't like it here, and we have no family anywhere close. With me being on the road all that time, we need to try to be close to family, due to her medical issues. Also the specialized doctors in this area aren't great, hence my order of priority with the three areas listed.

    1nonly, Hometime, and chief

    Unfortunately I was afraid I might be a little on the high side for starting pay. But if the wife can find work where we settle down, we can probably make a go of things, it would just be pretty rough for the first 6 months to a year.

    chief
    you have "dreams" of driving a truck??? this needs to be addressed before anything else. maybe some of the other guys can burst your bubble on this one.

    LOL. Yes I really have always wanted to drive OTR. I am aware of the fact that it is a demanding and often lonely liefstyle, but I've always enjoyed keeping to myself, and I'm used to plenty of BS after 14 years in the military. Thank you for your frank responses to my questions, your answers will give me something to chew on.

    Again thank you all.

    ShortRound
     
  9. chief

    chief Heavy Load Member

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    this gig is certainly not without its pluses. I loved seeing different places, and having plenty of "me" time. just don't be misled into thinking you're going to "see" the country and that it's like being on vacation every day - it's NOT.

    money wise, right now, if you figure starting pay of 30 cents per mile, and miles as low as 1200 a week - and believe me, it really CAN be that bad when freight is slow, AND you're putting in 70-90 hours a week...do the math.

    do you really want to pursue a job where you might only make $7.00/hour? be gone weeks and weeks at a time? sitting for hours or even days waiting on your next load? and paying $3,000-5000 to a truck driving school for this "dream?"
     
  10. sgtdingus06

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    See your education officer on base about the VA/G I Bill payment option for an independant school. Just before I retired "the Guard" paid for me to attend Roadmaster in W. Memphis. However they only recognized it as a course because Roadmaster is affiliated with Mid South Community College. You know the deal. You have to go Find the right people cuz they "Aint" lookin fer you. Charlie Mike!
     
  11. IronRydr

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    Shortround,

    Having just gone through somewhat similar circumstances as you, I chose the private school route. I would try to stay away from the company run schools if possible. Also, there are a lot of companies out there that hire student drivers, and I'm talking about companies other than the 'driver mill' companies. Most are smaller companies (100-500 trucks) that usually don't make the news on forums like this one. Many prefer to hire from these schools, in fact. Starting pay is going to be .28cpm-.30cpm, although you can find higher paying companies. KLLM's starting pay is .34 for student drivers and they seem to be a good company. One company that I looked at seriously, and will again in the future, is Superior, a tanker lines. Their starting pay is .41cpm, even for students. I didn't go with them because they don't expect to have any positions available until March and I wasn't willing to wait that long to start working.

    I would certainly think your military experience would make you a highly valued applicant. You're old enough to be responsible and are used to 'accomplishing the mission' regardless of hinderances, etc.

    If you can settle on a company or two that you think you'd like to work for, I would suggest contacting them to determine in what areas they are currently hiring drivers/students. There are areas of the country wherein many companies hire, and other areas where hardly any companies hire. Don't settle on a destination, only to get there and find no one is hiring there.

    Freight is down generally, given the current economy, and many are struggling to get miles. There are, however, drivers that are still consistently getting 2,500 - 3,000 miles per week, even in this economy. You might have to do a little more homework to find them, but they're out there.

    Some will tell you it's also a bad time to get into trucking, because many drivers are out of work, hence, there are many experienced applicants looking for work. I would add, though, that a lot of companies are using the current surplus of drivers to clean thier ranks of those that likely shouldn't have been driving anyway. The problem drivers are finding employment hard to come by, but the applicants with clean driving records, stable work histories, no criminal records, etc., are still finding jobs, even without experience.

    As to suggestions for schools, I just finished with Sage Technical Services. They have multiple schools around the country and seem to have one of the better reputations. Sage was also one of the less expensive that I found ($3,600). I've spoken with several carriers that only recruit from their schools. You can google them to find if they have a location near you.

    Good luck!

    IronRydr
     
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