Epilepsy

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by rrn777, Jan 3, 2009.

  1. rrn777

    rrn777 Bobtail Member

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    Hi all.
    Two years ago I started a part time small business operating a bobcat & tractor. I've been thinking of going to equipment operator school to learn to work on the heavy iron because I absolutely love working on my CTL.

    The local union house suggested I get a CDL to better my chances at job placement. Then I read something late last night that worried me.

    20 years ago I had two seizures. I lost my DL for two years, which I fully understood. They put me on meds and ever since I've been seizure free. Docs released me to drive 2 years after they put me on meds, and I've not had a hint of a problem since.

    So I read that an epilepsy diagnosis is very bad news for over-the-road truckers. Found that there are federal regs that specifically prevent people with epilepsy from crossing state lines, unless they have been seizure free for 10 years, off of meds.

    I've been pulling a heavy bobcat & trailer around which I'm legally allowed to do - no issues. There is a LOT of weight behind me, and I have to be on my toes whenever I'm pulling my load to a job. Especially in the city traffic.. I never realized how much of a pain four wheelers were to truckers until I started pulling weight myself.

    What about local runs? Can I still obtain a CDL, but not drive a load across state lines?
     
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  3. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    Are you required to pass a DOT physical now ? If you have a medical card you should be able to get a CDL in your state . I know several diabetics that drove strictly intrastate due to DOT regulations .
     
  4. rrn777

    rrn777 Bobtail Member

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    The union house said yes, I'd need to pass a DOT physical. I don't use drugs and am in good shape for a thirtysomething woman. I don't know what else there is to a DOT physical.
     
  5. Waterloo

    Waterloo Medium Load Member

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    Found this on the FMCSA website under rules.

    Reading the rules, you are ineligible to obtain a CDL. Sorry.

    Subpart E ' Physical Qualifications and Examinations §391.41 Physical qualifications for drivers.

    (b) Has no established medical history or clinical diagnosis of epilepsy or any other condition which is likely to cause loss of consciousness or any loss of ability to control a commercial motor vehicle;

    If it said "no current" instead of "established", you would more than likely be able to obtain your CDL. But as it stands now, well you know the answer.

    Mike
     
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  6. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    The reason I asked was you said you have been pulling a Bobcat around . That would put you well over the 10,001 lb. GCWR vehicle rating requiring a medical card . Most states require it even for intrastate driving .
     
  7. rrn777

    rrn777 Bobtail Member

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    I also found this on FMCSA:
    http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/documents/neuro2.pdf

    SEIZURES, EPILEPSY, AND INTERSTATE COMMERCIAL DRIVING
    Current federal regulations prohibit commercial licensure of individuals with epilepsy. These regulations were written in 1971 and last revised in 1978. However, there have been major advances in neurology and epilepsy which warrant reconsideration of previously recommended restrictions. We also advise that all evaluations be individualized, considering nature of the seizures, risk of recurrence and specific job requirements, and appeal procedures provided. Future research into this matter is encouraged.
    Also from www.epilepsy.com:
    Commercial driver's licenses

    The U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT) prohibits anyone with a history of epilepsy from driving a truck between states. These regulations are currently under review, however. For advice about the current rules, a person with epilepsy should contact the DOT.



    Regulations for driving a truck or bus within one state vary from state to state. Some states have restrictive policies that prohibit any person with a history of epilepsy from driving a commercial vehicle. Others review each case individually.
    The way these are worded, it sounds like I could get a class B to drive locally, but not on interstates or otherwise crossing state lines. I'll check with my state DOT for more info on Monday. My current equipment is below 10,000 - made sure of that before investing money into my rig. :)
     
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  8. Waterloo

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    Good find. I lost a really good driver to diabetes, he lived, barely. He had to go on insulin injections. But, he got himself into shape and is now able to drive OTR again. The epilepsy might be a tough one though. But you never know, they change rules out here like we go through socks.

    Mike
     
  9. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    The combined GVWR's of the truck AND trailer have to be less than 10,001 lbs. DOT cops nail plenty of 1 ton trucks pulling trailers . Hook any thing to a 1 ton truck and most 3/4 ton trucks and you need a medical card .
     
  10. Waterloo

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    Yep, and stay way far away from Jackson County Michigan. They make a fortune off of the locals up here with similar equipment. We are truly our own worst enemies.

    Mike
     
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