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Hhmmm, I will have to pay more attention to the miles. I run national so I dont get the same routes all the time, but I will start keeping a closer look or even talk to my FM this next week. As far as detention pay, its still 2 hours for national fleet (unless they just changed it on Jan. 1st.). Thanks for the info and Drive Safe!

 

When Id run a route I have before, Id always look at the paid loaded miles and compare them. They were always the same. Though, another member has mentioned that his miles were different...in the big CRETE thread.

 

I'm not sure they changed the miles. I got a load from Minooka, IL to Ochelata, OK. 645 paid miles. PCMiler is showing 642.5 miles, dock to dock.

 

as far as i can tell, the miles are still pretty close to *actual*.still much better than HHG miles.for all the runs Ive done.unless you get stuck doin local crap..anyways, be safe y'all

 

Well, yes as a matter of fact it has been brought up in the past, and discussed in some detail.

And let me make this VERY clear. CRETE DOES NOT PAY HHG MILES! You are simply stating an exaggerated rumor that you overheard as "fact". If they had switched to HHG miles you would have been paid for 70 miles less as opposed to 11. I know the difference. It happened to me with the last company I drove for. That's why I don't drive for them anymore.

I have always keep detailed records of my trips and the "fact" of the matter that I can prove is that an adjustment was made to the way practical miles were computed (routing, as they put it), but the miles we are payed are still far superior to HHG miles. I don't in any way condone what Crete did or the way they tried to slip it by us, but your statement simply is not accurate.

Here is a reprint of a post I made back in June:

With that little bit of information my unpaid miles for the entire year of 2008 totaled 3738 miles. That was equal to 2.4% of my total miles for the year. Paid miles for the year were 150,110. These unpaid miles included a few 100-200 mile runs to the house for home time, all personal use while bobtailing during time off, wrong turns, etc. If you have any knowledge of companies that pay HHG miles you would know that unpaid miles over a year will run between 10-15% if not a little higher. Ask anyone that is payed based on HHG.

Your statement regarding

is also incorrect. We are paid layover after 2 hrs and this statement?

just amazes me. Are you actually complaining about a company wanting to you to document your delay so that they will have proof to show a shipper/receiver to base their claim on. Or is everyone just suppose to take your word for it?

 

Hate to disagree with you Evertruckrr but I to have noticed miles being shaved off of loads. I have kept track of every load I have ever hauled for Crete in the 3.5 yrs I have been with them and they are not paying today what they paid in the past for the very same run. If it was x# of miles from point A to point B 2 years ago it should be the same today. Sometimes they shave 5-6 miles sometimes up to 15 or more. It doesn't happen on every load but it is happening!!!! Talk to other drivers if you don't believe me.

As far as detention is concerned, all can say is what a joke. It's not even worth putting in for it anymore. They always have a good excuse to screw you out of it.

 

I fail to see the disagreement, as far as the reduced miles on each trip goes. Please reread my previous post. As I stated, we are now being payed (as of March 08, give or take) about 1 1/2% less on each trip. You have verified this with your own rebuttal.

This is not a significant reduction in paid miles as far as it relates to us as an individual driver, but when you look at it as a 1 1/2% reduction in payroll for 4,000+ drivers I'm sure it adds up from the companies point of view. All I am saying is that it is not HHG miles. If that were the case the payed miles would be a solid 10% less and in many cases over 15%.

Unfortunately, it's just another case of the big corporation taking advantage of those who generate their income. Less money for us, more for them. It's the American way. Capitalism works great for some of us (them)! It may soon follow in the footsteps of Russia's Communism.

As far as the detention thing goes, I'll give you that one. I would have to say that I actually collect on detention maybe 50% of the time. It used to be much more reliable, but Crete only pays when the customer pays them. With the new economic downturn, well, everyone is getting tight with their money. That is an arbitrary number and I haven't actually followed it closely. The reason is that I am detained beyond the 2hrs (free time) so rarely that is just doesn't really have any relevance to my pay. I am a driver that came from the refer business before signing on with Crete and detention was a daily nightmare. Since I've been running with Crete, detention beyond the 2hr "giveme" is so rare that when it happens I barely bat an eye over it.