Need a straight answer on GVWR

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Nicoman123, Apr 14, 2018.

  1. DieselDrivinDaddy

    DieselDrivinDaddy Light Load Member

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    Register the trailer at 9999 lbs.. Otherwise get a Class A CDL.
     
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  3. ZVar

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    He is the chart again... So yes, a GCVWR of 29,000 will require a CDL A
    Also true weight kinda matters, but only if it's over the weight rating.
    Say he registers that trailer for 10k, but puts 15k or product on it. He will get both an overweight ticket and a no CDL when required ticket.


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  4. Nicoman123

    Nicoman123 Bobtail Member

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    So if i derate the trailer for only 10,000 pounds GVWR, trailer itself weighs 5000lb.

    I can only legaly haul 5000lbs?
     
  5. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    Correct.
     
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  6. Doing_flatbed_nc

    Doing_flatbed_nc Medium Load Member

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    Run out of DEF...
     
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  7. Nicoman123

    Nicoman123 Bobtail Member

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    Thanks guys, its a lot to take in being a nooblet.
     
  8. Nicoman123

    Nicoman123 Bobtail Member

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    Bro piss off
     
  9. Dino soar

    Dino soar Road Train Member

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    Some of it depends on your state, you need to call your state DOT and ask them.

    In some states it may be possible to register for less weight and be legal, but if you are traveling into other states you need to know their laws.

    For example, in Pennsylvania you cannot derate your vehicle or your trailer. If you have a 33000 pound truck that you put a 26000 pound tag on in Pennsylvania, they will only go by the sticker or tag that is on the door from the original manufacturer. In Pennsylvania it means nothing what you register the truck for. I have spoken to the dot in my area about this. In Pennsylvania if you want to de-rate you have to reconstruct your title and actually have it be 26000 pounds on the title and the state issues you a new VIN number and a reconstructed title. It is a process to go through that.

    There also is something with small trucks, like pickup trucks that you can combine with a larger trailer that actually is over 10000 pounds but the combination is 26,000 or under

    I think it works on the gross towing capacity of the truck and the gross weight of the truck itself.

    Someone that knows more can chime in, but I think nowadays there are trucks that have a gross weight of say 10,000 pounds. But they have a towing capacity of say 16000 pounds.

    I think with that combination with that particular truck you are allowed 26,000 gcvw without a CDL.

    If your truck is 14000 lb then I think you are legal with a 12000 pound trailer.

    But always check with your state DOT Regional office for the true answer.
     
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  10. Nicoman123

    Nicoman123 Bobtail Member

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    Yep 12000lbs GVWR on the trailer sounds overall like the magic number
     
  11. Ridgeline

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    You can't derate the gvw by plating it with a number and have that accepted by another state.

    The problem is this.

    An inspector can use the manufacturers tag that lists the axle capacities as the only factor involved, and even if your state says you can haul only so much but the capacity is a lot more, they will always go with the tag and not the plate.

    This also means that you can be put out of service until you get someone who has a cdl-a to move the truck.
     
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