Hey boys and girls. Got a few questions - been driving for a year and a half spread out across three years (First two years were 6 months on/6 months off, and have been with my current company for 6 months now). The current job is my first as an OTR driver, pulling tanks.
So as I've been getting accustomed to the OTR lifestyle, obviously I have a lot of thoughts coming and going, as happens to all of us, so a few questions have come to mind:
- How prevalent is truck theft & overnight break-ins? I see a lot of guys locking their doors if they even go as far as a fart away from the truck. Seems borderline paranoid - is it really that bad?
- Is dropping suspension standard procedure for dropping trailers? I haven't been doing that - just park and drop, leaving my bags up. I read a couple of other guys' posts saying they do that, and I wonder if I should be doing that as well?
- Just how powerful is a good Jake supposed to be? The first truck I had with this company (PB 386 w/ Cat) had a Jake worth shlt... didn't slow the truck down at all, even bobtailing. Made lots of nice noise but that's it. Current truck, FL Coronado w/ Detroit, has a better Jake, and it is actually useful. However, I find that crawling down mountains, say I-70's 7% grades for example, I have to roll down at 25 mph in 6th at the most with the Jake on high to hold the truck. Anything higher/faster it just runs away from me and requires frequent braking. I see plenty of other loaded trucks hauling ### down the hills not even touching the brakes at all and it makes me think I have a weak Jake.
- Is regular light grinding when waiting for the hole to open up during shifting normal? Not applying pressure but just touching the gears until it drops in. I've spent the last 6 months really working on putting an effort into being a good, smooth shifter, both with and without Jake (on low - I can barely catch shifts on high). It is especially challenging as a smoothbore tanker, when I am loaded, since the product is constantly moving, it makes for some very challenging shifting at times. So I am wondering if I am being a rookie with any grinding at all, no matter how light it is.
- Why do some drivers drive with cab interior lights on at night??
Thanks for any input you guys may have, it's much appreciated!
A few questions from a relatively new driver...
Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by deafaviator, Apr 21, 2018.
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I lock my doors usually every time I walk away from the truck. I'm paranoid that someone is going to climb in the cab and ask me to take them with me.
Dropping the air bags can help with a heavy load. I have not done it and ripped off my mud flap bracket and all.
I use my jake on steep hills and honestly I only have to use my brakes when I'm near another vehicle. If I'm the only truck there I let it roll 3-10 percent grades. 1-45000 lbs. My KW T600 c-15 just goes rolling merrily along. Now it pisses me off when the grades post a 35-45 mph speed limit.
I run an automatic.
Cab lights are required by some states, required by some carriers, and personal choice by others. I run through traffic with my lights on because I use my headlights to signal to other drivers a lot. Usually to get out of the fast lane...BillStep Thanks this. -
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-Around here in Saskatchewan we only lock the truck at night or if leaving it for extended periods of time. Vancouver and Toronto, all the time.
-If the trailer you drop is fully loaded and it does not have suspension locking legs. Then after some period of time the air bags will deflate, with the brakes locked on, the geometry of the suspension control arms will cause the trailer to push forward about four inches. This puts a lot of pressure on the landing gear and they could collapse.
-yes some engines have better jakes than others, and even if they were all the same, the gross weight of the vehicle would still result in major speed differences compared to other, lightly loaded trucks. You have to adapt to load and terrain.
-shifting is all about timing, you get the hang of it, but probably a tickle of the gears is not a big deal. I’ve never lost a transmission.
-interior Red lights not really a problem, some guys just want people to look at themselves. White lights is a disaster waiting to happen, it severely reduces their ability to see road hazards, especially wildlife. In time to avoid them. -
Dropping the air is done so you don't leave the trailer to high for the next guy. Landing gear lowered about 3 or 4 inches from ground then drop the air and slide out. This way the next driver will lift trailer when backing under.
Jake brake... I know what you mean, some trucks have really good Jake's and others don't. I simply adjust my speed and gear so that I can go down the hill without using my brakes. Every trucker has a different opinion about grades and how to take them.
Grinding gears used to annoy me to no end. It's why I quit training, just couldn't handle the sound. But I didn't shift without grinding for a long time. Now I never grind gears. (Swift has automatics lol)
Interior lights at night??? Good question. -
I had the same problem with engine brake on my last truck with a Cat engine. No braking power, but lots of noise. One of the other drivers told me to turn on the engine fan going downhill. Worked like a charm. Slowed me down much better than the Jake. Don't know why the Jake was so lousy ,but all of that group of trucks were like that.
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My current truck, a FL Cascadia has an excellent " 3 speed " Jake.
When I'm fully loaded which is 2/3 of the time because it's a tanker, I can usually just drop a gear and pick a setting and roll down the grade a few miles under the limit with my foot covering the brake.
Some truck speed limits on hills are outdated because older trucks couldn't do this. Brakes are better and Jakes are common. I haven't seen a truck use a runaway ramp for many years. Those things always scared the #### out of me anyway. -
I keep two spare keys in my pocket, lock my truck & leave it running at truck stops to run inside etc. Lunch, same thing. If I get out (except on our yard), I lock it.... even when going in shipping to get checked in. If I get out of it, I lock it.
I do not usually drop my suspension but I can see where it would help. I sometimes drop it to get under a heavy trailer. Now that you mention it, I might start trying it for a while & see if its any help.
Engine jakes are different but I dont really have anything to add to previous posts.
Obviously, you do not want to grind a gear but even after 30 + years, I still grind one occasionally. Especially when I'm having a bad day or got my mind somewhere else.
Obviously, its not good but it aint like its gonna fly to pieces after a few times.
I dont drive at night often but I have seen some drivers with their interior light on. I will say, be cautious when looking in someone else's truck to see why they have the light on. It could be a good thing or not so good. I'd say back in '08 or '09.... I seen a lady one time driving in a teddy with her boobs out. She had an aftermarket, 4 bulb, red light strip on her sun visor. Obviously she was an exhibitionist getting her kicks driving somewhat nude at night for the other drivers enjoyment (thank you ma'am, I enjoyed it). This time it was a good thing. Seeing a guy with his business out, would not be a good thing for me. -
Some leave a key always in the ignition and are paranoid of someone jumping in and taking off. On dropping suspension it keeps some of the grease on the 5th wheel and some with new tires sit a bit higher so those with worn tires have to go crank the dollies down a bit, I would always crank the dollies down to just barely hitting ground and then dump air so not getting the jolt when pulling out, then when hooking dump air and pull so 5th is just starting under trailer then get out and hook electric and walk around to check tires, lights and that it was not sitting wrong on 5th, then back the rest, hook air lines and charge trailer for another walk around so to hear if anything is leaking, checking that jaws are clamped shut around the pin and then a tug test along with a pull forward of a few feet hitting brakes making sure they worked and onward.
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Originally there was one engine brake manufacturer, Jacobs was his name, hence "Jake" but along came others and they call them exhaust brakes, i suppose because Jacobs had patents I'm sure.
Yes you can actually shift a manual tranny WITHOUT grinding. If you know how.
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