Am I a contractor or an employee?

Discussion in 'Trucker Taxes and Truck Financing' started by reefertank, Mar 14, 2018.

  1. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    But I think you and others are missing an important point, the op isn't a contractor. He is an employee with a potential of buying the truck in exchange for the labor.

    The owner owns the truck, not the op. The owner provides the funds for the fuel, insurance and so on, and he is the one who takes the deductions.
     
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  3. p608

    p608 Road Train Member

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    Not if he charges it back to the op
     
  4. Ridgeline

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    But that's the problem, he isn't from what I read about the relationship.

    Too much confusion and nothing concrete about it.

    All I get is that the op went into an agree with the owner to get the truck after he worked for the owner for X amount of time, that's it.

    Nothing about the legal and binding contract. Nothing about how the settlement is done, pretty much a void of information. So the assumptions I have to make is the owner is still owning the truck, the driver is an employee and there is nothing written down other than a superficial agreement.

    The best thing that the op can do is leave the situation, file the return as if he was an employee with the estimated taxes owed and look for another drivers job.
     
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  5. reefertank

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    I did just that. I felt he was taking advantage of me, so i decided to call it quits. I wish i can recall what i signed when i came into his office one day, several weeks into the job. I should have quit a lot earlier but am glad i didn't continue working with him.

    The promise of offering me the truck is the only agreement we both signed. And that agreement only benefitted me and not him. It wasn't a contract that held me liable for any damages, loss, penalties, etc. Thus, I was able to quit whenever i wanted as if i were an employee.

    All funds came from him and was deducted by him, before issuing me a check. If no signed contract was issued in regards to my employment status, then I feel that I was still treated as an employee. This, and the fact he charged me dispatch fees is literally the only proof and defense he has. He insisted he do all the deductions rather than passing all funds to me and billing me for the use of his services (including insurance) and equipment.

    If everything is in his name and all the funds came from his account, including the T-Checks issued to me to pay for the fuel, and I only get my cut after all deductions are made, then I should be taxed as an employee. This is exactly how he did it when i was an employee. The same exact structure. As a contractor, i should be billing him for reimbursement (as that is what owner operators do to brokers) and he should be billing me to use his equipment and services.

    But I just thought of something. Some of the repairs, not much (1/8th) directly came out of my personal checking account. The rest came from T-Check advances (cash). I was not reimbursed for the repairs, as we are arguing whether or not I am an employee or contractor. The tolls came from the T-Check. A lot of truck related services and goods came from T-Check. But the same can be said while I was an Employee.
     
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  6. KB3MMX

    KB3MMX Road Train Member

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    I'm just saying if he paid for the fuel on his account it is his deduction it never was your expense to begin with.

    If he is reporting it as your income that would clearly be faults as he never paid you it never went into your account and cash never went into your hands to pay for the fuel. It came out of his account every time.
     
  7. kathyegan

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    There are many sleazy trucking outfits out there taking advantage of truckers. Be careful!
     
  8. PressGo

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    Oh wow
     
  9. DSK333

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    You can get more than one, you know. I always get two. One for my IRS folder and a duplicate for my IFTA record keeping.
     
  10. aussiejosh

    aussiejosh Road Train Member

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    If its your truck your a contractor i mean if you want to call yourself an employee its a free country and you can say what you want if your paying off the truck perhaps he has a lein on it however you will eventually own the truck the title should actually be in your name .
     
  11. TRKFreighter

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    If you have a residual value of the truck listed in the lease agreement and a buyout clause then your lease purchase can be argued to be a independent contractor agreement, at least in terms of the equipment contract. The rest will be dependent upon your operating relationship with the carrier.
     
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