what happens with a hard braking event

Discussion in 'Prime' started by dogchimp, Apr 30, 2013.

  1. icecold24k

    icecold24k Light Load Member

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    Haha yes I completely agree 100%.
     
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  3. crocky

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    I had a hard brake for same reason as op stated. I had a empty trailer with disc brakes.. They stop very fast and in a controlled mannor. While stopping that fast is a fast stop, IMO they need to change the "hard braking" rules for disc brakes because in my case I did stop fast but it was easily controlled and IMO didn't seem too harsh of a stop with a empty trailer.. If freight was on the trailer then it might of shifted but far as a empty trailer it was just a fast stop that was easily controlled.

    For the record all that happened with me was a phone call and I explained what happened.


    In my instance it was just a very big intersection, like a 6 lane vs a 4 lane intersection with double turn lanes. The light turned yellow just as I was at the critical point and I didn't want to go through that big of a intersection under a red light.
     
  4. crocky

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    bridges, guardrail in a turn and cars in another lane hitting their brakes..
     
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    To be fair, the auto brake only works if cruise control is on. You shouldn't have cruise on in snow or black ice conditions.
     
  6. x1Heavy

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    You have to impose a braking load, I think equals faster or greater rate than 6 mph per second per second. In other words if you got her stopped in 6 seconds from 70 mph flat on dry everything in that trailer will probably rumble off the pallets and tumble and that is just the beginning of your problems with managment while your rig electronically tattletales that hard stop back to master control.

    Ive taken lights rather than scramble freight or tip a tanker with milk in it. I'll pay the #### 40 dollar ticket, whatever. I'll take that than a chance of actually losing it all trying to get her stopped that quick on a fast light.

    Keep in mind this was a long time ago. Long before camera monitors on red lights and so on. It was a different time.
     
  7. icecold24k

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    This I agree 100%. My hard brakes have came at traffic lights that suddenly decide to change. I am at this point also. I will just take the ticket if one comes instead of trying to break really quick to stop at the light as long there isn't oncoming traffic or it isn't a huge intersection.
     
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  8. FullMetalJacket

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    Heya Crocky,

    Glad to see you still hangin.

    Only if cruise on.... yep, SUPPOSED to be the case, right?

    Had many students have those phantom hits on cruise. Bridges, guardrail on curve, even shadows.....

    But, I'll give you a good one. (Got many more over years, but....).

    I'm hardly ever on cruise..... I pedal & work it most all the time.

    Straightaway on Interstate in Maine. Divided freeway, 2 lanes either side of huge mefian. Middle of day, not a cloud in the sky.... and not a single vehicle front or back on either side, front or back for miles in sight.

    That thing just threw the brakes as hard as you could imagine! Outta the wild blue!

    And, guess what..... cruise was not on at all. LOL

    I can agree with the tech in principle & what it is SUPPOSED to do, but..... #### ain't ready for prime time. That's my story/opinion & I'm sticking to it.

    For what it is worth, they keep an ongoing record of all critical events. (Hard breaks, roll over alert, overspeeds...etc). It's a cumulative record & part of an overall rating kind of thing.

    At some point, they drop off from primary view at some point .... kinda like tickets. BUT, they always have the ability to look at your whole long term stats.

    Most of time, it truly is a car cutting or something like that. For realzzzz..

    But, also realize every single individual they call about an alert, has that exact #### reason near universally. LOL

    As far as red lights....... yeah, aggravate the hell out of me, too, sometimes. Especially little towns where I was leading into red, goes to green, then just goes back to red seconds later..... with no cars at all at intersection. Hate that ####!

    Just have to anticipate long standing stale greens ahead are going to possibly change & slow up accordingly.

    Good to see you still out here, bud!
    You're beginning to look like a survivor...

    :biggrin_25521: :biggrin_25525:
     
  9. crocky

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    I don't typically give up easy, but I was always gonna do at least my year unless it was just a really bad situation that I didn't like. My plan was always to be here until the end of this year because I need to take off to get some neglected stuff done that I've put off too long.

    After that I'm unsure what I'm gonna do. If I come back to big truck OTR after that it will be with my own truck. I don't mind the OTR but I don't like not having any freedom so I'm looking at maybe getting my own numbers to do LTL and expediting with a sprinter or running a hot shot truck, something I can actually drive around and do stuff/have fun while OTRing.

    I'm really mixed on that though because I've found a really good deal on a 2009 Cascadia that I could buy now. The issue is obviously I couldn't run it at Prime so I'd still need to get my full year in prior to using it as I can't really lease it on elsewhere with out my year's experience. Regardless I intend to buy a truck/van whatever in the coming months to ease the tax burdan.
     
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