Anyone who why older trucks are costing soo much?

That is why I mentioned skills. Relatively few have the skill to get their own MC number and be successful at it.

 

I don't see the '99 ELD exemption going away anytime soon. What are they going to do, ban these trucks from the road? You can't put a electronic logging device on a truck that doesn't have the electronics to support it. What they are hoping for is these trucks to eventually fade away, and they are to some extent, it's just going to take a lot longer that most anticipated.

We have a 1985 Mack RD822sx (truck in my avatar) with 40K on the clock. The truck was originally procured by the military during Operation Desert Storm and then the TN National Guard had it for a number of years (it had 26K on it when we got it in 2015). I have documentation to verify the miles. Older low mileage trucks are out there, but I'll readily admit that the old Mack is far from the norm.

You do seem to see more older trucks broken down on the hwy these days, but I'd submit that it could be due to the fact that there are more older trucks on the road. I'm thoroughly shocked at the trucks I see broken down that look like they just rolled off the showroom floor.

I like to see all the older trucks on the road. It's the American way, authorities try to force something on you, and you just give them the finger and roll on.

 

I just bought a 2003 pete with a recent rebuild and DPF filter installed. I guess I don't feel so bad paying 28k.

 

My truck ‘99 379 EXHD

Let’s do this. How much are the guys spending a year on their repairs for the newer trucks with no warranty, what are the repair costs that warranty covered, down time, truck payments, compared to older trucks. I can tell you this. My most expensive year of repairs was under $15k. Now I’m talking repairs, not routine maintenance like tires, brakes, etc. I mean break downs. Engines, tranny, rears, emissions treatment systems etc....

My engine was $7100 inframe kit and accessorial parts and cleaner
Clutch and tranny $5000
ECM $950
Injectors $370 each
Turbo $950
Brand New front axle complete $1250
Cam shaft replacement including labor $6700
CAC, radiator less than $3000
All things I did myself except cam job

Downtime was never more than 5 days

This has been in the last 11 years.

I’ll take that over new truck payment and warranty.

 

They are currently working on a ELD for pre-2000 Engines that uses magnets on the driveshaft. it works just like a crank or cam position sensor.

That said I just sold a 2006 Columbia Condo 515 bhp S60 and 13 Speed, 1.6 million on truck, 600k on overhaul+radiator+IAC, 200k on clutch, 100k on Head+Turbo, 75k on Virgin Yokohama TY517 and Yokohama RY617. $20,000.

My current ride is a 2012 Glider with a Complete New Engine (Built using new block) that is considered a 1993 since that's the block that was crushed to allow the engine to be built.

 

Guys, some of you don't understand the market.

Right now (actually in the last 10 months) we have had an up tick in sales activity in the class 8 segment of the market. More people are buying trucks, especially used trucks, even if the truck is complete crap. It isn't because of the ELD or crap like that, but because the rates are rising due to the economy getting better. When people have more money to grab over the fence, they get more nerve up to grab that money.

I sold a lot of junk this year, I expected to sell it as scrap but three of the trucks are going to some guy in Ohio who is "rebuilding" them to put drivers in them, another four are going out west to Colorado to a company who is going to "capture the big bucks" in a freight lane between DFW and Denver. I don't care to sell scrap trucks to people but they contacted me, the guy in Ohio actually drove to my home and knocked on my door looking for cheap trucks.

This morning I was reading the new truck sales have taken off again - the author claimed unexpectedly but we know otherwise. This will filter to auto sales and again Ford will become too dependent on pickups and unlike the commercial world, personal transportation sales are directly connected to the price of gas.

 

What I expect to see happening in the near future is a travel distance ban on exempt Eld trucks. You have to assign the truck to a home base and it's not allowed to travel so far from that base.

 

What would that accomplish?

 

I’ve always heard that as well. However, I rebuilt my ‘99 500 hp N14 last year at 1.4 million, and the block and crank looked fine.

Let me ask you this: what kind of rpm are you spending most of your time at? What about in a hard pull?
Does the other truck with the 500 turn about the same rpm when pulling?

Reason I’m asking is I really think the whole “block fretting” deal with the N14 may be caused by drivers not keeping their rpms up.

Some may argue but I consider anything under 1400 rpm lugging with mine. She really likes to pull from about 1450-1650 or so.

 

I have a D12 pre-emmissions, and the factory manual (supported by roadrelay thingy on the dash) instruct me to up/downshift if rpms go outside of 1400-1600