Carrying firearms in a truck

jesus christ man, do us a favor and quit shouting at us, does your caps lock turn off?

 

1pissedoffdriver - We will all read what you have to say, but can you do us a favor please? stop with the oversized, capitalized, and bolded text?

It's difficult on the eyes, and having to re-focus to read your posts compared to everyone elses is enough of a reason to ignore your posts completely. However!!!

I do admit that I agree with you on being judged by twelve or carried by six. I hold a ccw and if I found a carrier that operated strictly within the state and allowed me to carry my hangun in the truck, I probably would because you are right, there is no law saying that it is illegal to carry a gun in a commercial vehicle in a state where you can legally possess one.

Running OTR however and picking up at and delivering at such a wide variety of docks poses some real legal dangers should a gun be found on their property.

The DOT now has x-ray machines at quite a few scale houses around the country. Kentucky was the first state I believe to install these things and use them. They are used to verify that you have contact with all of your brake pads by measuring the amount of heat coming off your wheels as you enter the scale. It also gives an x-ray view of what is in your trailer, and I'm sure if they want to look for concealed weapons in your cab it would not be hard to do a quick zoom on your cab and identify a handgun. Just a thought.

OTR500... I have spent many nights in W. Memphis, AR. I've never had any issues, I've never had any reason to even feel uncomfortable there. I just found it interesting that it was on your list. Thanks for the heads up.

 

I don't know. It seems to me that if you inform the guard at the gate that you have a firearm and gave it to them incased and unloaded, they would hold it until you exited the gate.
When I played in my band, we traveled the US in a Tour Bus. We played military bases and installations on a regular basis. We would tell them we had firearms, (because 3 of us had CCW permits) and they would either tell us to leave them locked up on the bus, or leave them at the guard gate. Never had a problem. Most times company rules about firearms in truck is because it reduces THEIR liability. They would rather send flowers to your funeral, than possibly be involved in vicarious liabilty in a lawsuit. I've known a lot of truckers over the years that carried them and still do. I personally believe it depends on if you are an complete ***hole or not. Politeness with Police can go a long way. I personally would have mine locked in a box in the rearmost area of the sleeper and unloaded. The primary use for my gun would be when I laid down to sleep in a truck stop or rest area. I would then lock it back up, before rolling out. I usually wouldn't worry about anyone getting me out of a truck. That's what the hatchet (tool) and pepper spray are for that would be in my tool bag beside the seat.

 

The only reason I would want to have one on the road would be in the case of a natural disaster, terrorist attack, civil unrest, etc. I would hate to be caught up in a riot or natural disaster where food and resources are scarce and people are killing for food etc.

But then again, I could be struck by lightning tomorrow and there's not much I could do about that.

And I don't know, but I might rather die than spend six years in prison.

 

This is a good one and i can't help but offer insight into this area.
As a Retired Miltary Occifer and a 25 yr combat veteran seeing 13 seperate engagements over my military career i have grown up with and still keep in my posession a rather large Hand Cannon. Stainless Steel Colt King Cobra 6"bbl.

Point is i also have been driving in between my activated reserve duties for this great nation and have on several occasions had to produce let alone on one occasion in Hunts Point had to relieve an african american of his abillities to breathe or reproduce.Whenever the issue comes up by a law enforcement officer ALWAYS tell them you have the weapon.As to where it is in the truck it doesn't matter as long as it is secured and you can not access it at will,,Meaning that you will have to get up make a few movements and then do your thing..Logic behind that is simple.Should you get pissed that someone just showed you the international sign of middle finger,, you don't just reach and blow his brains out,,Rather taking the time to retrieve the weapon most likely will leave you considering whether it may be the appropiate response action for that particular situation. Almost every trucking company has strict policies against the posession of firearms,,,Ok granted these are implemented for common sense reasons.However the unwritten policy on this is that it is better to have a weapon and not need it,,,Than need a weapon and not have it.AnyHoo i have never had any problem carrying my weapon even after the Justifiable Homicide cituation in hunts point,,which as we all know is New York where the posession of a weapon in a commercial vehicle is prohibited.Doesn't matter what the cops think at the scene,,Inevedably it is left up to the prosecuting attorney whether charges should be filed or not.Now be it knwn that i am by no means an attorney or represent the law in any fashion.I am merely informing you of what i was told after the Shooting.And no the co did not take any action to terminate me for taking such action.Considering the load i was under they were happy to not have an insurance claim filed for the Driver,Load,Or tractor and trailer..So i guess that 32 cent full metal jacket hollowpoint was well worth the risk.I do have in my posession a federal Conceiled Weapons Carry Permit for Semi Auto's,,Qualify with a semi auto,,you can also carry a wheel gun,,Qualify with a wheel gun and that IS ALL THAT YOU CAN CARRY.

 

How did you obtain a "Federal Concealed Carry Permit." As a retired Police Officer, I have never heard of such a thing that allows one to carry across the US, unless he is FBI, DEA, CIA or any Federal L/E Agency, or agency requiring you to be armed for "DUTY" purposes. I have never heard of Military people having such weapons carry permits unless they were active duty CID, or Military Intelligence/ Enforcement Assignment related.
I do know that many concealed carry permits issued by states are recognized in many states. My state permit being allowed in about 39 states now. Further, as far as I know the state of New York only recognizes it's own permit. All others are worthless there. NYC, don't even think about it unless you're a Judge, Celebrity, or billionaire.
Please explain the "Federal Concealed Carry Permit".

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe there was a policy implemented that a retired LEO can carry federally.

 

Controversey Smontroversey,,I carry mine in the truck .357 Ready at a moments notice..I simply don't care,,Been asked a hundred times by the occifers why do i have it..My reply is simple.Same reason you have one.Cop's aren't stupid,,well for the most part.They understand and long as you ain't a felon..your still jellin,,,At least that has been my experience for the last 17 years.So if in the future they do outlaw weapons in a CMV,,I will continue to be an Outlaw.I know this will start a whole lot of threads,,But i would rather have a weapon and not need it,Than to need a weapon and not have it.Besides,,I pity the moron that brings a knife to a Gunfight.

 

I would also like this information.. Is it something we can all get, or just a special few?

 

Federal CCW Permits are issued upon Rquest At time of Retirement for ALL Military Officers exiting the military With one Foreign Combat Ribbon.As far as i'm aware Non Com's E-8 through E-10 are eligible with 25 yrs service and at least one combat engagement Ribbon.