Can you convert a new trailer with duals to super singles?

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  1. bryan21384

    bryan21384 Road Train Member

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    I'll see you at $2 per mile and you'll raise me $2 more dollars a mile....that's how a trucker that gambles would negotiate his load
     
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  3. Blackshack46

    Blackshack46 Road Train Member

    That makes sense if your buying wonderbread. Im buying locally, where two or three mennonites spend all week baking, then sell friday and saturday at the farmers market. Obviously its not just bread they're selling, usually the whole pantry. Anyway how will they have to only raise the price a penny when fuel goes up 300%?
     
  4. spyder7723

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    Because transportation fuel costs is a very low part of the total production costs for most goods.
     
  5. Rubber duck kw

    Rubber duck kw Road Train Member

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    Until you triple the fuel costs.
     
  6. Blackshack46

    Blackshack46 Road Train Member

    For most goods, where it cost a penny to produce the product, and they sell a million a day.

    I do think the market is different though for the small business.
    Your able to raise your rate and the customer just raises their rate because theyll make it back in one truck load in a day. Some small businesses will need a month to make back a fuel bill from last month because they cant charge an arm and a leg to the end user.

    Like my truck burns 40 gal a day
    At $10 a gallon thats 400 dollars. But i just unloaded 50k of milk at the dairy that made the company $500. $1 per hundred wieght. Profit $100 a day to the truck. But the driver just worked 10 hrs at 20 an hour. 200 bucks a day. Now the company is negative 100 and only fuel and driver pay is accounted for.

    Thank the state run dairy industry for #### rates. You might buy milk for $3 a gal. But the farmer only sees $14 per hundred wieght of their production.
    Everybody else and their mother has to be paid off each $3 sold.

    Then you have an increase of production, while a decrease on the consumer end. Now we have too much milk but nobody is buying it. So pay the hauler now $.75 or whatever and pay the farmer cheese rates.

    This isnt hauling steel, where you can be paid 10k on a 100 mile trip and theyll actually pay it. The entire dairy industry starting at the top of the state is screwing everybody on down the line. The farmer gets it the worst, followed by the hauler.

    Too many cows, too many people milking almonds anymore.
     
  7. spyder7723

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    My fuel costs run under 40 cpm currently (last fill up was 36 cpm) if it triples to 1.20 a mile we are looking at an 80 cpm increase in rates. Sounds high right? Not really. Current average line haul rates are almost double what they were three years ago and i don't see the economy collapsing and people stop buying goods any time soon.

    2 bucks a mile was a struggle to get in 15. Today 4 dollars is fairly common. Jesus I've been turning down flat bed loads out of Miami going to golden areas like Cincinnati that are paying 2 bucks a mile AFTER my carrier takes 25%.
     
  8. spyder7723

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    Success and profits aren't a constitutional right. If dairy farmers can't make a profit on milk them they should get rid of those milk cows and raise beef cattle. No different than any other business, make tough decisions based on the bottom line, not based on emotions.
     
  9. Blackshack46

    Blackshack46 Road Train Member

    I dont know any that are swimming in the profit at 14 a hundred. But ill let all 12 of my farms know that its time to leave the business and flood the beef sector because the truck driver online knows trucking and farming are 1 in the same.
     
  10. spyder7723

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    Dude I'm not the one crying a raise in fuel prices will put the entire dairy industry into bankruptcy.
     
  11. Rubber duck kw

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    I guarantee you theyre still making money somewhere. Farmers are the only people i know who will complain more than truckdrivers, " we need rain", 3 inches falls and washes a few acres out, "that's too much all at once"
     
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