Brokers want to track me....

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Commuter69, Jun 1, 2018.

  1. Commuter69

    Commuter69 Road Train Member

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    My thought was that if I was going to get a new phone, I was going to actually USE it and not be lojacked by it.... lol
     
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  3. Matt43324

    Matt43324 Light Load Member

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    Are you talking about the San Bernardino shooter? Bc if so, I was really impressed with apple saying no. I was applying for a state LEO job and had to take a polygraph, well my phone was on 95 percent when I put it in my center console right before I left my truck. Come back out about 2 hours later my phone was on 12 percent. No way my phone drained down like that running iddle. It had perfect "4g reception" pretty sure it was sniffed. I want a true true encrypted phone. I don't pay bills on my phone, order stuff, put any personal info etc. If it's something I don't want the world to know, it doesn't belong on my phone. I don't do clouds, I don't use my phone calendar for appointments or such. I have a ol fashioned calendar book I use. Up until 2016 I had a flip phone. Only reason I got a smart phone was bc my command was constantly whining bc I wouldn't respond to text messages if it was a simple ok, yes, rgr, etc. Kinda miss the simplicity of the flip phone. Not to mention my data was compromised in the OPM breach a few years ago by the Chinese gov. I wasn't happy about that. Still disappointed that the feds failed to properly protect my info that I had to disclose for my job. There way of saying sorry was here is a free 3 year subscription to monitor your information that we failed to protect. Bunch of BS if you ask me
     
  4. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    I don't remember the details. But yeah. Apple wouldn't hand over the code because of right to privacy. If they handed out the code..Nobody would have privacy anymore.

    Fbi trying to gain access to a terrorist phone i think it was.
     
  5. Matt43324

    Matt43324 Light Load Member

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    Yup that's it. If I get a lot of respect for Apple after that, although I completely understand that fbi wanting access to the phone, and from what I understand they eventually were able to access the phone which by all means was completely reasonable for wanting access to it, but when it starts coming to our Constitution and such there are lines that don't need to be crossed because once you cross them then what stops people from Crossing them again in the future and again and again and again then eventually it it becomes routine practice. After that, where do we re establish the line
     
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  6. Brettj3876

    Brettj3876 Road Train Member

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    Root & encrypt your phone and keep the wifi off next time. And if your super paranoid use tor
     
  7. djoh615893

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    I can understand that, and I feel the same way. I also understand that there are some dirty scumbags out there too who can't seem to behave otherwise. I refused to give my license every time a customer demanded it with the intention of holding it. I'll let security scan it, but I demand it back on the spot. That was when I was on a dry van, and haven't been back to that kind of gig since. I have never been asked for dumb stuff like that since I went flatbed and agricultural. Having a company ID certainly would help a lot with that kind of nonsense, and maybe the companies will tell customers that they are not going to deal with them when they have to print and laminate/order ID cards. I remember Roehl ordering ID cards, but for the purpose of access control at their terminals and I wish I had thought of that at the paper factories back then. I have issues with surrendering any kind of government ID to someone other than a cop, especially for the reason that I caught people trying to rush me out of the customer's security shack while "forgetting" to hand back an ID. Being "forgetful" is total BS, and drivers have relayed stories of being 3 states away by the time they realized their error, and were at a DOT scale when the discovery was made. Kind of inconvenient I'd say.
     
  8. BigBoxBroker

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    The reason "most" brokers would ask you to set up some sort of ECI (electronic carrier integration) is because it requires 0 man hours for them to get the updates they require (the 40 calls from OPS ya'll can't stand) and it also aids them in selling a service their customers are paying for. That service is real-time tracking, every customer wants to know where their orders is are real time. Think Fed-ex & amazon, the way of the new world has created a desire for information now and that is no different from retail customer to a customer shipping freight across the country. My advice, use Macro Point - For you dooms dayers, it does not use location services (GPS) it simply triangulates (geofencing) your proximity to a cell tower you are receiving service from for in-transit updates and will automatically mark you checked in and out of a stop based on you stopping in proximity of the details set up in the load on their end. Thus effectively negating the need for an ops rep to call you 40 times a day to get the info they desire. And let's be honest, in no case is the federal government going to spend the time and money to try and subpoena that "estimated" data from MP to try and stick you with an HOS violation. All they need is your cell phone for that, which they still wouldn't do unless you where maybe a suspected drug trafficker or terrorist.
     
  9. Ridgeline

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    You know something, brokers don't need to know. Because the carrier has to trust the broker, the broker should trust the carrier and not try to micromanage the load.

    I have a new customer who didn't like the idea of their product being tracked by anyone but the carrier. The broker who was handling the customers needs insisted on some app put on the drivers phone and call them at specific times. The customer found out about by a driver who complained to the shipper about the phone calls and the app. The customer was pissed, they told the broker go away and put the word out they want to work with a just a couple carriers, I'm one of three carriers who they reached out to so we got all together, gave them one rate and one uniform contract. Now they are very happy with the cost savings we gave them at the same time improving the stats.

    By the way my policy is company phones that the driver get are locked. Nothing gets put on the phone without my approval.
     
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  10. SteveScott

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    I could care less if a broker tracks my location. What I do care about is the fine print in the user agreement on those apps that allows them access to data on my phone such as my personal saved logins, and my contacts with their names and phone numbers, and that data then being sold to their "affiliates" which is a nice way of saying they get permission to sell everything they can download with my blessing. Any app that is free makes money data mining computers and phones, and I will not allow my equipment to be used like that by signing up for their services to make it more convenient for the broker.
     
  11. Commuter69

    Commuter69 Road Train Member

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    The problem still remains that Macropoint created an opportunity for some black hatter to hack into the phone I had at the time, this hack introduced a virus that compromised MY personal information and destroyed a phone that I could not restore and had to replace out of pocket(not a warranty issue and I was still paying for it). This is why I refused to install the app on the new phone, knowing that nobody would even offer to cover my costs when it happens again. My compromise was that I upgraded my S8 to the S9 to use, wiped the S8 to factory default settings with no information on it, and kept it so that it could be of use as a lojacking device.
     
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