Out of service orders

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by dieselbear, Feb 19, 2009.

  1. dieselbear

    dieselbear Road Train Member

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    I was wondering how many driver's violate Out-of-Service orders? I put a driver out of service last night for multiple OOS violations. When he thought there was no one watching he fired up his truck and started rolling. With the penalties that exist it makes me wonder why a driver would risk it. I know over the years I have located numeorus driver's violating the orders and have seen the outcome of the driver having his CDL disqualified for a period of time. My theory is most driver's do not realize the consequences of violating a OOS order. Driver's what is your take?
     
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  3. Lilbit

    Lilbit Road Train Member

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    I would not have moved, but then again, I made sure I didn't do anything to get me in trouble.
     
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  4. ironpony

    ironpony Road Train Member

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    Agreed. Why? Perhaps it's the general lack of respect for authority that pervades this country - coupled with the belief that they can "get away with it."
     
  5. Lilbit

    Lilbit Road Train Member

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    No doubt. I was raised to respect authority, follow the rules (I did bend some when I was much younger), and take the consequences if I screwed up.

    Having family friends that are cops and county sheriffs also had a bit of an effect.:yes2557:
     
  6. arky870

    arky870 Light Load Member

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    ones that do violate oos orders are the same ones swearing up and down they were wronged for getting them even though they were wrong.i have been placed oos 2 times and i was dead wrong both times so i set my time out.
     
  7. LandShark

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    the only time i would even consider doing this is if there were a familiy emergency at home...and by emergency I mean an accident that required hospitalization or a death in the family...I will get home any way i have too. PERIOD. but I would also inform the officer that this was my intention before doing it.
     
  8. psanderson

    psanderson Road Train Member

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    So you issued a second DVIR showing he/she violated the O/O/S order, Put the word out on the circuit, & then sent the citation(s) on his/her behalf to the carrier?

    Not to mention the 383.51 ramifications.
     
  9. junkyardhound

    junkyardhound Light Load Member

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    Has to be a real issue before I would violate an oos!! Its not worth it in the long run.But there are some who live by the motto if the wheels arent turnin ect. not worth it!
     
  10. GasHauler

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    None that I work with. But the whole point is stay in front of problems as much as you can. I do the same type of inspection for pre-trip as post-trip. I make it a game with myself to find items and fix them before they become problems.

    But things do happen on the road but I'd like to think I could catch it before any LEO put an OSS sticker on me or the truck. But if it did happen I sure wouldn't violate the order. That's just plain stupid and the driver should find other work. Unless if it's like LandShark discribes because family is number 1 over everything in my book.
     
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  11. tannermike46

    tannermike46 Bobtail Member

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    I had a driver violate oos sticker in mansfeild pa.

    They caught him in lawerenceville pa at the kwik trip, 1 mile before ny.It cost back then (8 years ago) a trip to the county jail.I bailed him out the next day for 2,000.

    One month later we seen judge and it was 2,000 dollar fine.So judge kept his bail mony and set him free.He paid me back every week and never seen any thing on cdl report to this day.He still works for me.
     
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