Tips for new drivers (things to do)

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by notarps4me, Feb 21, 2009.

  1. notarps4me

    notarps4me Road Train Member

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    If your airline is hooked 2 things one you can apply the trailer brakes and hope they stop it sooner or 2 if you didn't and it got away you have to explain to your company or the insurance co and if you did have the air lines hooked at least you can tell the jury and the person wearing the neck brace you did everything thing you could do. Lawyer... sir did you try to stop?? Former driver couldn't I just slammed it and hoped for the best...
     
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  3. msmspilot

    msmspilot Light Load Member

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    Your legal argument might hold a little bit of weight.

    However, how the hell is applying the trailer brakes to a trailer with its parking brake set going to "stop it sooner"?
     
  4. dr5169

    dr5169 Medium Load Member

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    Both of yu guys make very valid points...............
     
  5. rswinnerton

    rswinnerton Light Load Member

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    There is absolutely no reason to hook up air lines before backing under any trailer built after 1975 (Which is most of 'em). If the spring brakes don't hold the trailer, your air brakes aren't either. Consider this. Lets say that you back up to a trailer, hook up your air lines, and begin to back under. The trailer begins to slide backwards down hill due to ice, etc. If you hit the brakes, nothing will happen. The spring brakes already are on and the air will not make them "come on harder", nor will the trailer stop moving (unless stopped by friction or gravity), and now not only have you lost the trailer, you've also ripped off your gladhands!

    Trailers built before 1975 have an emergency air tank on them to hold the brakes on, but many of them leak off air releasing the brakes. Thats why before you hook up to them, you SHOULD charge the emergency portion before backing under them. In reality though, finding one of these trailers still in road-worthy condition will be rare. More rare that the buffet roast beef at the TA.

    Don't bother hooking up before you back under. Waste of time.

    However, in very cold weather, when you back under, keep pushing gently on the trailer with the tractor for 5-7 seconds after the kingpin goes into the fifthwheel so that the jaws have time to close. In cold weather, the grease on the fifthwheel makes 'em move more slowly than normal. Then tug test twice.

    Good luck guys and stay safe!
    Russ
     
  6. notarps4me

    notarps4me Road Train Member

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    I am going to have to start another thread instead of tips to help new drivers I will call it arguing with knuckle heads...:biggrin_25523: As I said I don't hook up anything prior to hooking a trailer. My tip was for new drivers if the trailer is on ice, now that I think it through I can see your point. Now get off my thread...:biggrin_25523:
     
  7. dr5169

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    I am currently in CDL school.. what exactly is the "tractor protection valve"? Does it have something to do with the trailer emergency brakes ??(the red knob).I am kind of confused on that one...and thanks for starting this thread...novices like myself can always use the advice...
     
  8. notarps4me

    notarps4me Road Train Member

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    If you have a air pressure problem and lose air if you get below 60 lbs of air the red button will pop out and you will stop.
     
  9. dr5169

    dr5169 Medium Load Member

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    Thank you....
     
  10. notarps4me

    notarps4me Road Train Member

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    Your welcome. The trailer brakes will lock first. If the tractor locked first it would start a jack knife.
     
  11. muscletruck7379

    muscletruck7379 Light Load Member

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    the tpv is so if you have air pressure loss at the trailer, like if your 5th wheel isn't completely engaged and you lose it while goin down the road. it rips the glad hands off and you get a very big air leak. the tpv senses this loss and keeps the tractor from losing all of its air so you can safely stop it. your post-75 trailer, since it has no air left. fully applies the spring brakes causing a minivan to rear end your now stopped trailer and sue you like crazy for losing the trailer, no brake lights, etc.

    I have never worried about hooking up the glad hads prior, but I have alway done a tug and checked to make sure it wasn't only half engaged (it will still pull, but can pop in or out)
     
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