So it's been a few weeks of applications and phone calls, and while I'm centrally located between 3 major hiring areas, I am outside the hiring radius for all of the LTL positions i applied for. Bummer. I can cover my bills for the rest of this month but definitely not in a position to move right now in the hopes of getting one of those positions.
This leaves me with 3 offers on the table, the one listed above, a dry bulk tanker position, and a liquid bulk tanker position. Claimed income is within 15% at all 3 and all are OTR. I assume(correct me if I'm wrong) the dry bulk would be the easier of the 3 due to nonexistent to minimal surge. My question is how does the surge compare between a single liquid bulk tank(unsure if smooth bore or baffled) and a dry van full of IBC liquid totes?
PS: I've searched for this already and read all the posts about the coffee cup tanker driving school already. Yes I understand either of them will take patience and practice![]()
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Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Lonestar87, Oct 5, 2018.
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@Lonestar87 the difference between a smoth bore tank and a van full of totes is night and day. When a van driver tells a tank yanker yeah these totes relly get to surging, man i can fell it in the cab. A tank guy just smiles in return. It wouldn’t be nice to say out loud what they are thinking in the head. Lol.
Also baffled vs. smoth bore, again a huge difference. Now if you really want to take a ride run a iso tank. (Intermodal tank) boy O boy. They never ever calm down. EVER. Front to back. Side to side. More than a couple hundred miles and you’ll need a day off and a chiropractor. I hated them with a passion.
Imo, liquid tank is my favorite. You will learn about surge pretty quickly. Once you get used to it, it won’t bother you anymore. Heck you’ll hardly notice it.
The coffee cup thing is a joke, ment for fools. Don’t fall for it. Pay attention to the surge and your shifts. Learn to match them up. Use that surge to your advantage. Also to stop a surge, after you stop, release your brakes and let the surge roll you around. This will stop it pretty fast. *if you notice most scale houses have a sign “release brakes on scale”. This is why. Holding your brakes lets the suspension bind up and keeps the surge alive. Allowing the tires to roll kills it.Lonestar87 Thanks this. -
@GreenPete359 Thank you sir. I knew there was a big difference between smooth bore and baffled from posts on here(and tanker chapter in cdl handbook), but appreciate the first hand knowledge. Had to look up intermodal tanks. Yikes! I see guys running those up and down I -45 here in TX all the time. Power to those that haul them but my back is hurting just looking at it. I think I could handle a baffled tank but was leaning towards the IBC totes.
As far as the coffee goes, I figured it was an analogy. It would take me 10 minutes to get up to highway speed without spilling it if I was lucky! Nah don't think I want to clean up that mess.
By matching up the shifts with the surge, do you mean to upshift as the surge is moving forward and downshift as surge moves backward? Thinking about it when upshifting you would create a backward surge so would release clutch as surge moves forward to minimize it, right? -
Honestly, i really don’t down shift much for off ramps, stop signs, red lights. Just take your time and use even brake pressure. Keep your foot steady on the pedal. Kind of like a turtle man, let the freight haulers with them big ‘ol boxes be the hair. As for downgrades, you shouldn’t need to down shift so often that your in a surge situation. This is proper gear selection, and that starts at the top of the hill.
The old man who trained me on tanks... We were dead heading up the road to load the wagon, i was down shifting for every light, stop sign, traffic slow down, etc. (this was day 1, and he was the saftey guy & this was my road test) i didn’t want to get fired on day one for not downshifting. Anyway he says to me, “You must like getting beat up, because you keep downshifting like that when this tank is loaded you’re gonna get beat up.” He was right, i went from “Jaking” to a stop, to “Braking” to a stop.
One more thing, everybody is in a hurry when they’re behind you, but if you’re behind them you can wait a minute they’ll say. So take you time, and do your thing. Sometimes you’re just better off to forget about the traffic behind you, especially when you’re learning something new.
(Sorry if i’m all over the place here. Lots going on in my tiny head today)
***Anybody wanna give me crap? Tell your boss to get off his wallet brakes are cheap!!! And no you don’t have to over heat them and put on a smoke show.Lonestar87 Thanks this. -
No worries brother I appreciate you taking the time to share your knowledge. I know CDL school was just the warm-up for the real tests yet to come and I'm trying to soak up all the information I can before that happens.
I've got no problem making them wait behind me. Not gonna let anyone pressure me in an unsafe situation in a vehicle that large and heavy loaded with chems. I will gladly take an extra few minutes or hours if it means everybody goes home in one piece. That's one of the things I like about the above job posting compared to the others. Having that "minimum pay guarrantee" makes me feel like there isn't going to be quite the pressure to "get it there yesterday, you're late." Granted if someone isn't running like they should be, I'm sure they wouldn't last too long. Who knows what it'll be like in actuality, but it's a nice thought. We will see i guess. Going to call the recruiter lady back in the morning and go for it!
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