CR England: No blindside, cant pickup load

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  1. Buckeye 60

    Buckeye 60 Road Train Member

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    with a reputation like cre that policy is understandable. some carriers sell service . cre sells price and capacity. blindsiding should be avoided if possible but sometimes it can't be. cre chooses not to have there drivers not do it and looking at how much damage there drivers do on normal backs it's understandable. you are better off following company policy as long as your there if you are new you need to get your year in and go else where and if your not new and still there your mental ability comes into question so maybe you are where you belong . the sad part of it is cre used to be a good place to work and it has evolved into what it is today , I don't know what exactly happened as I never worked there but my guess is that the children have taken over for the founders and are far removed from being a driver that they are running the company into the ground which is quite common
     
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  3. x1Heavy

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    Im sorry, Im blindsiding or some lucky jockey will see a 20 dollar bill and point to the bay. It will be in. I don't care anymore about scardeycat policies that apparently are in fashion these days.

    On the other hand, I would be in touch with dispatch within 15 minutes saying Im out of here, not loading today due to no blindside policy.

    If they come back with any pushback, I would repeat what part of no blindside company policy don't they understand? And escalate up from there until I am fired or they find another shipper.

    If I was smart I would never work for such a company that carries such a policy. There are certain things I need to be able to do to that thing to get loaded and they can stick their policies.
     
  4. Hollywood23

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    No kidding I used to blind side off four lane roads in to an alley every day. I pissed off more people on that P&D rout than I have ever in my life before.
     
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  5. Hollywood23

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    The problem with going elsewhere from CRE is they test in a manual so they can only drive manuals. So it just restricts them to other ####ty mega carriers.
     
  6. REO6205

    REO6205 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Question about this "no blind-side rule". Is it an actual rule, like written down somewhere, taught during training, and enforced? Is it in the company handbook or just passed around verbally?
    Is it really company policy or is it just general advice? Or maybe just another break room story?
    I can't imagine any company totally forbidding blind side backing. There are times when a driver has no other choice and if it can be done, and done safely, it would be ridiculous to not allow it.
     
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  7. RedRover

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    I have a couple of questions, but I’ll just ask one and provide a very brief anecdote...

    Question: is TS still at the consignee all these months later waiting for permission to back his trailer?

    And a small anecdote:

    I personally had to blindside at all 3 stops on my load yesterday. 1 off a busy street in the ghetto in Baltimore, one in Hagerstown and one right in the middle of Washington DC. In your situation, someone will most likely spot you. In mine, I just had to put my 4 ways on and swing into opposing traffic(because #### me right, nobody is going to just let me do it) and bulldog my way into a driveway that had about 4 inches on either side of my trailer. And that driveway was about 8 feet long. Meaning about 52 feet of truck and trailer were just hanging out into the middle of a busy street in Washington DC at 13:30 while I took 6 chains and binders off of the equipment I was hauling and they offloaded it and signed my paperwork.

    Nut up is basically what I’m saying. 95% of parking at TA/Petro is blindside. And I don’t have the luxury of sliding my tandems back to reduce trailer swing, or close my tandems to change the tracking of the trailer.

    You just have to learn to ignore most of the #### your trainer taught you and ignore the #### going on around you. It’s definitely not more inconvenient for the people who have to wait while you blindside in traffic than it is for you to blindside off the street in traffic.

    Wait until you #### up sometime and go into the wrong entrance of some shipper or consignee and they tell you that there’s one way in and one way out, and you’re blindsiding back into traffic.

    I have gotten myself into some super embarrassing and super tight places and by just waiting until I was calm and slowing down and thinking rationally and analyzing the situation, I was able to get myself out of it with the only damage being to my ego.
     
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  8. Dave_in_AZ

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    I think he was stretching the blanket a bit.

    When you go through the CRE obstacle course, there is a set up to an alley dock.

    It's a bit daunting when you're green. You have to hit it just right. If you don't, you will hit something (instant fail ), but if you don't pull forward far enough during the set up, you have to cut enough that your looking in your blind side. Also an auto fail. And the woman with the personality of a herd of fire ants reminds you of this in a loud B voice about 6 times as you're preparing for your attempt.

    But no one ever said you couldn't blind in after that. But this was also 13 years ago.
     
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  9. x1Heavy

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    oooh I like to meet this herd tender of fireants of the female persuasion. She can yell all she wants, Im deaf I don't hear her.

    I hate to be difficult but schooling bends people stressing them out taking on something 15 feet wide and yea far down the line. Anyone can fit a truck in there.

    It's the real world that is really, really tight. There has been a couple that even this backing god could not fit into. For example aiming a 53 foot at 2 am into a cul de sac housing single carport blind side. It's not natural.

    That's like trying to have a horse get up and balance on a circus ball.
     
  10. Buckeye 60

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    I have been driving for 35 years or so and never got lost ..... just momentarily displaced .... I am ok at backing but excellent at making u turns. ..... what burns me up is when there are 3 spots and guys take the middle spot
     
  11. Moose1958

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    Unless there has been a lot of changes 6 years I have been away there is NO way a general OTR driver can make their pickups and deliveries and not have to blind side back. It just is not possible. I had to blink side back once because part of the dock area was being repaved. I had to blind side once in a MAJOR east Coast city once right off the road. No other way to do it. Same situation bad situation because of road work, in fact I felt lucky I was able to get in at all. I don't care what a carrier's rules are. If I am in a situation where I had to blind side I'm going to blind side. Safety don't like it. Well they can pucker up! Fire me and I promise you I would have had a job by the end of that day! I agree with @REO6205 .
     
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