Weird air compressor problem

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  1. sgreer78

    sgreer78 Light Load Member

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    Here's the problem: When I'm idling like say at a stop light, my secondary tank will lose air quickly, I can hear it. But when I barely tap the accelerator, it's like a valve closes and it stops, and it's only maybe a 25 RPM change. The truck seems to idle around 600 according to the tach. BTW, it's an 03 Columbia with a S60 DD. Is there some weird thing that happens with the compressor if the truck is not idling high enough? Thanks for any insight.
     
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  3. Lilbit

    Lilbit Road Train Member

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    The only time I ever had problems with something like that, it turned out to be one of the valves inside one of the air bags on the trailer. When parked, I could see the air bag wasn't holding air.
     
  4. Winchester Magnum

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    I doubt the problem is with your compressor idling at 600 or 625, or even 1600. Yes the faster the engine turns, the faster the compressor runs, the faster it will build presure.

    But the problem was with you loosing air while at a red light. Does this sudden loss of air only occur while your foot is on the brakes? Because you said when you bump the accelerator the problem instantly goes away, which makes me believe it's cuz your foot is on the acc, and not the brakes at this point.
     
  5. sgreer78

    sgreer78 Light Load Member

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    It loses air without touching the brakes. Or touching anything for that matter.
     
  6. Winchester Magnum

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    So with the engine # 600 rpm you loose air, but # 625 or higher you build air? Yeah?

    Lets say you're sitting, parked in a TS with brakes set. Now you idle up to 625 or more, and build air untill the governor kicks out at 120 (ish)

    As soon as the gov kicks out you go back to 600. Then what happens?
     
  7. sgreer78

    sgreer78 Light Load Member

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    Yes. Well, if I'm parked, brakes set, idled up I build air normally. But if I kick it off, it seems to lose air, loud enough that I can hear it, and then as soon as I give the pedal a little pressure, you can hear it stop and it builds normally.
     
  8. ampm wayne

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    Could be a lot of things. Does it only do it during really cold weather? If so it could be a froze-up air dryer.
    Does it only do it when the brakes are released? If so it could be a bad brake chamber.
    Since you said something about the brake pedal it could be a bad footvalve.
    Whatever it is you need to find it. Good-luck I wish you well
     
  9. droy

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    Check the unloader valves on the compressor, might be getting carboned up
     
  10. rookietrucker

    rookietrucker Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    If you can hear it losing air, I would be following the sound and determine where it's coming from.
     
  11. wadesout

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    It could also be the radiator fan the clutches on them are air operated. I had that problem and it took 3 trips to the shop before they finally figured it out.
     
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