How to know how much weight a Trailer/Truck can handle w/o damage

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  1. Locke

    Locke Light Load Member

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    I currently work for a company that uses end dumps and side dumps to haul coal fines.
    We drive heavy loads but not as heavy as the Coal Trucks that I am told are meant to be driven heavy.

    After running multiple loads that put my gross at 105-107k lbs, I was told I was running WAY to heavy and that I would break the truck and trailer down very quickly.

    I get paid percentage on the loads, so obviously I want to run as heavy as possible (105-107k lb gross makes me 150 a load, twice a day). They want me to load no more than 95-97k lbs.

    So, question is this, how can someone find out how much a truck SHOULD haul.
    Again, I am being told that although the truck will pull it, I will damage the truck and trailer in short order.

    Where did they get this number from?
    I have a hard time believing that 5 extra tons is going to break the truck down that much faster since we are are already running 7.5 tons over 80. But hey, what do I know? That's why I am asking here.

    Is there somewhere I can look at the specs for the specific truck I have and get an idea of what is realistic to haul without putting undo stress on the engine?

    If I called a company that sold this specific truck, would one of their sales rep be able to give me some details that might give me an idea of how much the truck should be pulling?

    Thanks for the help
     
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  3. Bakerman

    Bakerman Road Train Member

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    I'm surprised they let you leave the yard overweight.
    Are you running on public roads? If something happens, they can be in a world of hurt.
     
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  4. REO6205

    REO6205 Road Train Member

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    Damage from overloading is cumulative. It might not show up right away but it's happening. Continuous overloading shortens suspension and drive train life.
    As long as you're legal, load what the company tells you to load.
    If you don't want to do that, find yourself another job.
     
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  5. Kshaw0960

    Kshaw0960 Road Train Member

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    It’s not hurting the engine so much as your driveshaft, clutch, transmission, rear ends, suspension, and tires.
     
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    Tombstone69 Road Train Member

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    And your wallet if the DOT gets a hand on you.
     
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  7. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    Ive totaled trucks under 134500. (Way more than that)

    Not coal, containers overloaded beyond reason versus old Iron from the 60's etc.

    Something reminded me in the railroad history they used to really examine the bearing surfaces in the hopper cars on Ore Service from Port (Power plant reload back after running coal) because concentrated dense material could push the weight beyond reason on a vehicle, whatever mode it might be on.

    Generally your Gross Vehicle Weight Rating is where it's designed to be safe. But loading a big truck until it breaks? Who knows. I have a feeling that trucks are capable of loading a million pounds at least once. But that does not mean you want to do it.

    You say you are being told a certain amount is way too heavy, who is doing the telling you? Your Boss? DOT? Plant Shipper Manager? etc.
     
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  9. Locke

    Locke Light Load Member

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    Overweight meaning, over 80k. I should of made that more clear.

    Overweight for the door swingers that work for the megas.
     
  10. Locke

    Locke Light Load Member

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    The company is really small and I am being told I am WAY TOO HEAVY by one of the fellow drivers that also has the responsibility to watch whats going on and ask for volunteers for overtime. I wouldn't really call him a Driver Manager in the traditional sense of the word.

    I was getting different answers from different people at the company, some of them fellow drivers and some of the higher ups. I am new and it's not like I knew all these things.To get a much more specific answer, I went straight to the owner and asked him how much he wanted us to load.

    And I get it that it's cummulative. But I'm curious and I never take anyones opinion as truth without having
    something to back it up. So while I have listened and made changes to my loads, I was still curious where they might of got an idea of how much I could load or if they are just pulling it out of their ###.
     
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  11. Locke

    Locke Light Load Member

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    Never said I wouldn't, just curious as to where I might get some proof of that number or something there abouts.

    Up until this I never ran for a company that was set up to haul heavy loads.
     
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