Non CDL box truck that requires a log book.

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  1. cprems

    cprems Light Load Member

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    I am going to drive a 26ft box truck as a new job. It requires me to have a DOT physical ( I have) and a log book kept. My question is how do I record the previous 6-7 days in the log book if this is my first time using a logbook? I will be travelling through different states and will have to use the scales and such. I just need to know how to stay legal with the logbook.

    As always, any comments appreciated.
     
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  3. RDBG

    RDBG Medium Load Member

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    One log sheet all off duty date it for that whole range. If it's elogs I've no clue.
     
  4. cprems

    cprems Light Load Member

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    Thanks for the reply. I'll do just that. I appreciate the response.
     
  5. Kyle G.

    Kyle G. Road Train Member

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    I think one of these would suffice:
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  6. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    Kyle's form is the same basic form I've done for all my now employers. I figure if Swift finds it legal, then you will have nothing to worry about.
     
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  7. cprems

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    So do I carry this in my log book? How does this translate to being on the right side of DOT?
     
  8. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    If you are worried, you can always print this page out for the first week.

    Regulations Section
    Question 5: May a driver, being used for the first time, submit records of duty status for the preceding 7 days in lieu of a signed statement?

    Guidance: The carrier may accept true and accurate copies of the driver’s record of duty status for the preceding 7 days in lieu of the signed statement required by §395.8(j)(2).

    The actual law from 395.9(j)(2) is as follows:
    (2) Motor carriers, when using a driver for the first time or intermittently, shall obtain from the driver a signed statement giving the total time on duty during the immediately preceding 7 days and the time at which the driver was last relieved from duty prior to beginning work for the motor carriers.
     
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  9. x1Heavy

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    You need to do whatever you can to learn the basics of logging your workday.

    Your first logbook page will have the last 8 days off duty in one line across. With the dates therin. This is even before you touch that truck your very fist workday which is on page two on that paper logbook. Enter 0 in the last 8 days recap column. You have a full 60 hours or 70 hours in 7 or 8 days depending on how your company runs. (If they run OTR trucks you are 70/8 if not, then you are 60/7

    When you drive, your logbook will be at the last duty status change meaning morning pretrip inspection with the Driver pretrip inspection report signed by you with no defects AFTER you have pretripped that truck on-duty. Eventually you will have to add to that logbook as your day progresses.

    DO NOT sign that particular page until you have completed your workday and have gone off duty for the rest of the night in a hotel past midnight. Next morning open the next log book page to the new workday. Add whatever total hours you worked on day 1 into the next line on your recap column.

    Whatever you do log the closest town, milemarker, location etc in your description as possible with the actual time. Tolltickets, fueling reciepts and bills stamped delivered etc all have to be logged etc.

    The rest of it will only confuse you. It's very dangerous to go out with no knowledge of logging, It is absolutely something that is enforceable against you and your employer.
     
  10. cprems

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    Thanks for the guidance, I do appreciate it. I've been doing a good deal of research on this and this is why I reached out to those who know more than I. My aim is to be on the right side of the law.
     
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  11. x1Heavy

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    It's ok, my logs HOS is OBSOLETE. In my day It's straight 10 hours driving, god only knows how many total on duty and split your sleeper to roll until you burn out your 70. That changed about 2003 after I got off OTR.

    That is why I don't talk about hard current HOS. Someone else can explain the daily to you.
     
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