What is the reasoning behind WLL requirements?

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  1. Bdog

    Bdog Road Train Member

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    First off I know the law. It is here. (393.106 see below)

    My question is why is this adequate? Grade 70 3/8 has a WLL of 6,600 lb. Hauling a piece of machinery with four direct tie downs you get 3,300 lb credit for each or 13,200 lb aggregate.The law sates your aggregate only needs to be 1/2 the weight of the machine. So with the four 3/8” chains, one on each corner, you could legally tie down a 26,400 lb machine.

    My question is with this setup really only two at most chains or 13,200 lb of WLL are ever keeping the machine from moving in any direction. If it wants to go forward only the back two chains are stopping it.

    I know it is legal, but why wouldn’t you want more like each chain ( or multiple chains on each corner) being 1/2 the weight of the machine? This way the two chains in the rear would add up to the weight of the machine and be able to stop it from going forward.

    I have been hauling equipment for years and know this is not done but logically I don’t quite get it.
    I don’t want to make more work for myself and use eight 3/8” chains to tie down a 20k machine that would be crazy I just am curious why basically a WLL of half the weight of the machine is deemed adequate to restrain movement in a certain direction.




    (d) Aggregate working load limit for tiedowns. The aggregate working load limit of tiedowns used to secure an article or group of articles against movement must be at least one-half times the weight of the article or group of articles. The aggregate working load limit is the sum of:

    (1) One-half the working load limit of each tiedown that goes from an anchor point on the vehicle to an anchor point on an article of cargo;

    (2) One-half the working load limit of each tiedown that is attached to an anchor point on the vehicle, passes through, over, or around the article of cargo, and is then attached to an anchor point on the same side of the vehicle.

    (3) The working load limit for each tiedown that goes from an anchor point on the vehicle, through, over, or around the article of cargo, and then attaches to another anchor point on the other side of the vehicle.
     
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  3. SteerTire

    SteerTire Road Train Member

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    I can’t answer your question directly. But maybe I can answer it indirectly.

    I pull a lot of paper roll stock. Our securement works pretty much the same. Our load, like yours, is really too heavy to move on it’s own. If it did, it’s going to do some damage.

    It’s basically securement to prevent movement under excessive G forces. It’s never really going to prevent the load from moving under all circumstances.

    This picture - Guy had proper securement on load. The G forces he experienced were simply too high.

    851050A2-CFB0-4278-8286-772BA3894F8F.jpeg
     
  4. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    Don’t think of the regs as ADEQUATE, think of them as the bare MINIMUM to do the job.
     
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  5. Bdog

    Bdog Road Train Member

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    So in your opinion are more than four grade 70 3/8” chains needed for a 20k machine?
     
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  6. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    Depends on the machine. As I said, the regs cover the minimum. 4 points of securement for any machine over 10k, regardless of what type chain you use. MINIMUM requirement. However, I will take in consideration the size of the machine too. If it’s really big or tall, although lightweight, it will snap those chains.
     
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  7. PoleCrusher

    PoleCrusher Road Train Member

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    X2. I'm new to open deck, but I was taught to do the minimum plus a little more, and then keep going until I'm satisfied. Just make sure to only use appropriate securement points on the load, as some loads need a little "flex" room.
     
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  8. I glide 47

    I glide 47 Road Train Member

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    That's the bare minimum more is always better
    More money
    More coffee
    More securment
    More pie
    More. ?
     
  9. 1805

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    My opinion is do you really want to live with yourself if heaven forbid something happens and you kill someone because of being too lazy to trow a couple more chain ?
    Yeah I know their are guys who do local work and they do things alittle different . That's fine, that's their choice .
    They way I see it , I don't chain down for point a to point b . I chain down for the oh f### moment .
    I know this is not your question but this is my perpective.
     
  10. Bdog

    Bdog Road Train Member

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    Actually that kind of is my question. I know I am legal but in my mind I am not sure it is good enough for anything that might happen.

    To take the generality of the question away I frequently haul a small dozer that weighs 19k and a rubber tracked machine that weighs nearly the same. I have been securing both with four 3/8” grade 70 chains. By the law I have over 7k more securement than needed. Still though I can’t wrap my head around how 13,200 WLL of chain holding it from going forward is sufficient if it weighs 19,000 lb.

    I recently got a new trailer and am going to make some chains cut to length to secure these things and was thinking of upping them from 3/8” to 1/2”. My trailer has d rings rated at 15 something.
     
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  11. Diesel Dave

    Diesel Dave Last Few of the OUTLAWS

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    5D1EB1ED-DF92-4462-AB12-66F63141F8BA.jpeg Over securement with a peace of mind
     
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