log says sleeper, but...

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by soon2betrucking, Mar 9, 2009.

  1. dieselbear

    dieselbear Road Train Member

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    You are right. The only way your 14 hour clock stops is to take an 8 hour sleeper berth period. Then it resumes, so you are right. You would have another 8 hours to get yor 11 hours driving in, assumed you have driving time during your earlier 6 hour block.
     
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  3. dieselbear

    dieselbear Road Train Member

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    Th straw that broke the camels back was dealing with a j-### last night. The night before he was shut done for a false log and a 11 and 14 hour violation. Long story short, this might have been the most uninformed driver I have ever seen. after talking to him, I don't know how he ever got a CDL. His truck was out of service for major suspension defects. The axles were about to fall out. The trailers had no lights on them. So after being placed OOS he thought that the scale was closed and nobody was paying attention to him. Well there were about 10 other trucks on the lot and my boss sitting in the shack doing paperwork. I was literally 1/4 mile from the exit ramp with another truck stopped. Here he comes out the ramp and I stop him. Driver states my time is up at 10. I said driver the inspection wasn't done to 7 p.m., how is that 10 hours????? To top it off he made no repairs to his truck to fix those problems. After hearing his rants two nights ago about the OOS, and last night he finially came back into the shack after he was towed to a repair facility and had the repairs made. He just couldn't get the concept of the log book. I think I explained it 20 times to him and he's still CONFUSED. Hell he was confusing me with his stupidity. :biggrin_2551:
     
  4. lilillill

    lilillill Sarcasm... it's not just for breakfast

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    With the written test being multiple choice, even a severely retarded individual has a 1 in 4 chance of passing.

    It's the bottom feeder companies who hire these jokers that exacerbate the problem. Some don't even care if the driver turns in a log at all... they just close up shop after a while and reappear somewhere else under a new name.
     
    dieselbear Thanks this.
  5. dieselbear

    dieselbear Road Train Member

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    For some reason, these are the companies I usually find.
     
  6. im6under

    im6under Heavy Load Member

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    how splitting can help:

    last week I finished a run after 6 hours and was off at noon.

    I had to deliver the next day up in michigan anytime 7am-11am. this run takes 13 hours of driving and 2 unloading. 15 hours of work total.

    I could take a ten hour break at home then...

    6.5 drv + 2 unload + 4.5 drving + 10hr break + 2 drv = 25 hours gone


    I instead took a 9hr 45min break,

    5drv + 2 sleeper + 1.5 drv + 2 unload + 6.5 drv = 17 hours gone

    I did this by:

    taking a 9 hour 45 minute brk at home. (counted as my 8 )

    5hr drv (left over from my earlier first run.)

    2hr sleeper (giving me a new 14 to work with)

    1.5 drv 2hr unload, then 6.5 hr drv and was home by 3:30 pm.

    the difference here was 8 extra hours of hometime.


    I split as often as possible. If I am stuck somewhere I hit the sleeper even if its only for two hours...

    it doesn't extend my 14 hour clock doing the 2 hours first... but when I eventually shut down, I only have to take another 8 before I can hit the road instead sitting for a full 10.

    I think most companies discourage split logging because they can't trust their drivers to not screw it up...

    which it really isn't confusing. you need 10 off. 2 and 8 or 8 and 2...

    0- 1hour 59 minutes counts as zero.
    2 hours- 7 hours and 59 minutes counts as 2 hours.
    8 hours- 9 hours and 59 minutes counts as 8 hours.
    10 and above counts as 10.

    to me... anytime you can shave 2 or 8 hours off your road time its money or home-time in the bank.

    you can only knock out 70 before you're done... might as well knock them out quick and take the extra time off or start a new 70 and make the extra run/money.
     
  7. jakshouse

    jakshouse Light Load Member

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    LOL it's not paranoia IF they really are out to get you!
     
  8. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    I've never had them knock on the door but I've seen plenty sitting in rest areas waiting to catch a driver coming out of the truck . I never park on a ramp but that's a good invitation for a wake up call .
     
  9. Chain Drive

    Chain Drive Medium Load Member

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    just sit in the passenger seat at least than you can be off duty
     
  10. Red Fox

    Red Fox Road Train Member

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    Yeah, that makes room for the guitar!
     
  11. rig_jockey

    rig_jockey Bobtail Member

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    I'm not claiming to be a log expert, so anyone can correct me if I'm wrong.

    From my understanding you are in violation because your 14 hours were up 14 hours after the time you came on duty at home...

    and from 1:30 p.m. to 3:30 p.m. you were in violation 2 hours over your 11 hour limit.

    Also, when splitting I believe your 8 hours MUST be logged "Sleeper"
     
    Last edited: Mar 22, 2009
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