OK people heres the problem. Ihave lived a trucking charmed life, good job, home every night, etc. But now my employer is feeling the screws and our euiptment is taking the hit. We are a small distributer in Michigan and Ohio of flooring. We have 20 or so smaller local trucks and 2 volvo tractors. I drive one from MI to OH, about 575 round trip and the other driver runs OH to IND or KY roughly half my trip. Im having problems with my brakes...will not pass a pretrip brake test and they seem to lose pressure when i roll off the throttle for an exit. I dont downshift through every gear, I usually take it to 8 (35) then nuetral and brake from there not excessivally. The red light will start flashing and alarm will sound at 90 psi. which is as soon as the rpms start rolling down to idle. But can usually get it parked and when I come back from a pee break the alarm is off. But pressure will not build (past 95 psi) until I pick up the throttle to leave. I have had this checked by a mech who said nothing is wrong. My boss is a twit and told me if I didnt want to drive it, he could find someone who could. Please do not reply that I should quit my job becuse that is not constructive. Maybe someone with actuall knoledge of the brakes so I can help diagnose?
Help Please
Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by tileguyz, Mar 23, 2009.
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you gotta be kidding?!?! your boss isn't concerned that your braking system is losing air pressure? seriously? are they not responsible for the maintenance of their vehicles? I can't tell you how to fix your brake problem (not that you should anyway,) but if you're going to drive an unsafe vehicle, and end up causing a wreck because of it, YOU will be the one in a world of sh;t, not your boss.
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Easy fix, call a DOT officer and have him inspect your vehicle (preferably before you drive very far down public roads). Just note saftey issues on pretrip and note you drove the equipment under duress ... a job is a job. But your boss should get the hint after he has to pay a fine, and have the vehicle fixed before it moves.
Finding a little air leak can be somewhat complex ... a big one, not so much, its loud. Does the tractor hold pressure on its own without the trailer brakes charged? If not, shut it off and check for a leak. Does pressure only drop a few psi when tractor brakes are applied, and then continue to drop when foot is on the pedal? Leaking tractor brake can, line, or quick release. Does pressure drop when your trailer is charged? Get out and listen to where the leak is coming from ...etc, etc, etc
Im guessing you have a leak from the compressor to the storage tanks, maybe a drain petcock is stuck open. Listen for it. You could also have a compressor problem.
"Help" the mechanic to find your problem ... before it goes on its next trip. It shouldnt be on the road.Last edited: Mar 24, 2009
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You passed several open scales in Ohio . Why didn't you pull in and report it ? For all your boss knew it could have been a random check . You'd get put Out Of Service and not leave until a mechanic came out and fixed it . That would cost twice as much as your boss could have had it fixed for in his shop .
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All you need to do is keep driving this vehicle and wait for the cops to put you out of service for the defects and write you several tickets, or you can do as RickG suggests.
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This is some good advice if you want to try to fix it yourself or at least identify the problem. Does the truck do this by itself (no trailer attached). This will tell you if the problem is on the truck side or the trailer side. This is the first step in locating the problem. If you can try to get a co-worker to help you find the leak, example, have your friend push the brke pedal while you check. If you can not find a friend then you can get one of those bar clamps that you sqeeze the handle to tighten. If you turn the end around it will force objects apart. Put one end on the seat frame and the other on the pedal and sqeeze. Then run around the truck/trailer to find the leak because from what it sounds like it is not a small leak.
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Take a wheel chock with you. next time your coming to a stop (ramp or rest area is good ) and its leaking down. stop,shut off truck and dont set brakes.use chock,walk around till you find it. if you cant hear the leak its in application side and you will need someone to listen while brakes are applied.
FWIW, brakes dont last long when you put it in neutral at 35 mph and brake to a stop . trans dosent splash lube coasting in neutralLast edited: Mar 24, 2009
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Thanks for the good info(as usual). I know its the tractor, and it happens when the rpms drop AND the brakes are applied. Like backing under a trailer idleing back, tap the brakes ...alarm. And when I said I stop from 35 mph, It is mostly rolling, with these problems, I leave BIG room to stop. I mean HUGE. And while I might just try that thing about the scales but Im asceered. I told them today Im not driving it anymore till the brakes are fixed. Ill have to see what happens. Anyone looking for a chicken #### newbie who wont brake any rules?
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If your tractor builds (ie build up to 120 psi, and shut it off) and holds that pressure, and only drops pressure when brakes are applied its a really good chance you have a bad brake can ... a 20 minute and 35 dollar (wholesale) fix.
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I had the same thing happen to me. loss of air presser . it was a cracked airline going to the brake chamber.
It is not safe to drive that truck. It could have been bad for me if the brake locked down.
You need to get it fixed and be safe
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