Straight Truck regulations

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by phadphive, Mar 12, 2019.

  1. phadphive

    phadphive Bobtail Member

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    I'm starting a new small scale grocery warehouse company (specialty foods), and as part of our operation we will be delivering the loads to our supermarket clients, as well as writing these orders and stocking them. We have a <26,000 GVWR straight truck to accomplish this. All of our clients are within 150 air miles. I believe I have most of the requirements taken care of, I have DOT number for truck, we will be using a driver timecard (with start time, end time, and total hours), I've gotten a medical certification (required in my state, NY), but I have two questions that I can't figure out:

    A.) In the Driver Qualification file, I need to have a certification of a driver road test. Where do I find someone to give me a non-CDL road test? I will be operating the truck.

    B.) More than 95% of our travel will be within 150 air miles, but there will be some isolated instances where we have to travel to NYC and northern NJ, both of which are farther than 150 air miles from us. When that happens, am I correct in understanding that I have to fill out a complete driver log for that day and only that day? And how long do I have to keep it? I bought a log book just for those rare occurrences, I see that it has carbon duplicate forms...am I supposed to be sending a copy somewhere?

    Thanks so much for your help!
     
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  3. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    Your Boss will be riding that passenger seat. Someone in your outfit bought those trucks right? If YOU are the boss and so forth designate one of your drivers a trainer and have him test you. (*Inagine that...)

    You can probably get generic cards at Keller Inc. They have sold trucking type stuff in paper for decades.

    You retain your logs as a Carrier 6 months. Many keep it for years. I know of previous companies that still have my actual paper logs rotting quietly in a trailer somewhere out back. Just in case.

    The moment you leave 150 air miles (171.4 or so statue miles, you become logging for DOT, trucking etc and cross state lines in interstate etc.) You maintain that log on your possession going back 8 days, turn in everything 9 days and older to your company but not longer than 13 days after the logged workday. Your company will retain a copy and YOU will retain a copy as well at home. (In 2001 we used logs to prove 306 service days away from home at tax deduction per diem and kept those paper logs almost 9 years against any IRS Audit.)

    One small detail. If you go to your office and sit and work 9-5 and go home, log that as on duty at your company as such. That way your previous 8 days logging is covered. All compensated work at any number of employers must be logged time against your 70 hours in 8 days or in your case 60 in 7.
     
  4. phadphive

    phadphive Bobtail Member

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  5. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    Correct. Only the days you go outside the time card exemption. You do not need to even carry proof of the days you are using a timecard.

    As a driver keep it for 7 years if you use it for tax reasons. As a company 6 months.

    As for the log copies one goes to the driver, one to the company. As it sounds like both are the same entity you really don't need both copies.
     
  6. Ridgeline

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    Unless ny requires you to specifically have a drivers test cert, don't bother.

    Logs you get the original, the carbon copy is for a driver to keep but it is not needed after 7 days,
     
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  7. chickentanker

    chickentanker Bobtail Member

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    A copy of your driver's license in the driver qualification file is sufficient, in lieu of a road test..
     
  8. wis bang

    wis bang Road Train Member

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    Not in this case - 391.33 allows a motor carrier to accept a CDL issued by a state in lieu of a road test...

    OP does not have a CDL......
     
  9. GreenPete359

    GreenPete359 Road Train Member

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    You can give yourself a road test....find a form online print it out, fill it out, sign & date it.

    This forum can also be purchased from jj keller
     
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