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Attention employers: We now require a valid DOT# for anyone wishing to post a driving position. If your job offer doesn't contain a DOT number, it will not get past moderation and will not appear in the forum. The other requirements in the sticky at the top of this section are still required as well. Thank you for understanding.
How is the economy treating you as a driver?
Discussion in 'Trucking Jobs' started by bigkuz379, Jan 29, 2009.
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The definition of on duty time is all time from the time a driver is required to be in readiness to work, until the driver is relieved from work and all responsibility to perform work. Here's the rule:
TITLE 49
TRANSPORTATION
CHAPTER III
FEDERAL MOTOR CARRIER SAFETY ADMINISTRATION, DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
PART 395
HOURS OF SERVICE OF DRIVERS
Table of Contents
Sec. 395.2 Definitions.
On duty time means all time from the time a driver begins to work or is required to be in readiness to work until the time the driver is relieved from work and all responsibility for performing work. On duty time shall include: (1) All time at a plant, terminal, facility, or other property of a motor carrier or shipper, or on any public property, waiting to be dispatched, unless the driver has been relieved from duty by the motor carrier; (2) All time inspecting, servicing, or conditioning any commercial motor vehicle at any time; (3) All driving time as defined in the term driving time; (4) All time, other than driving time, in or upon any commercial motor vehicle except time spent resting in a sleeper berth; (5) All time loading or unloading a commercial motor vehicle, supervising, or assisting in the loading or unloading, attending a commercial motor vehicle being loaded or unloaded, remaining in readiness to operate the commercial motor vehicle, or in giving or receiving receipts for shipments loaded or unloaded; (6) All time repairing, obtaining assistance, or remaining in attendance upon a disabled commercial motor vehicle; (7) All time spent providing a breath sample or urine specimen, including travel time to and from the collection site, in order to comply with the random, reasonable suspicion, post- accident, or follow-up testing required by part 382 of this subchapter when directed by a motor carrier; Performing any other work in the capacity, employ, or service of a motor carrier; and (9) Performing any compensated work for a person who is not a motor carrier
I can also post the off-duty memorandum to log meals off-duty if need be. But you need to get that from the carrier. Clearly, meals are line 4 and subject to a violation of 395.8(e) (falsification) if you log a meal as line 1 without the written permission of the carrier.Last edited: Mar 29, 2009
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Here's the memorandum. If you don't have this in the truck then meals are line 4.
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Basically, ... There is no work...... Thanks again !!, for the info,.I'm sure we will see a new board next week on this same ol'e topic.
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My miles have picked up the last couple weeks. I actualy had to turn down a load (good one, too!) because I didn't have enough hours left on my 70 to run it. First time all year I've run out of hours.
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Sure got that old man from Illinois fired up, didn't I. Like I give a hoot less what some old retired DOT from Illinois thinks. He's sitting at home, drawing his retirement check off those poor folks in Ill. Just sit there in your rocker and let me be.
Psand, you lived out your life with a government job, I don't, I have to hustle to make ends meet, and will. Don't judge me about what I post on the internet. Come and look at my check stubs, then judge me. I will run hard at times, when the wheels are turnin' I'm earnin'. I get percentage, not mileage pay.
I'm sure my logs were legal, when they got to the office.
I was taught to make hay while the sun shines, I can't make that kind of money very often, and WILL take full advantage of the situation when it comes around again.
I wasn't in Ill old man so don't sweat it in your cussed 55 mph communist state.
MOSenderoLast edited: Mar 30, 2009
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It ain't healthy to keep things all bottled up like this. Tell us how you relay feel.
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and every company i've ever seen gives you the paper to carry saying you are authorized to be off duty when away from the vehicle.
only companies that won't provide that are companies haulling things like amunitions and explosives that have to have someone ON the vehicle at all times. but even then it's a team operation and I don't know why they wouldn't let you log it off duty as long as the other person was on the truck.
why don't you go badger the companies that give us loads that can't be done and leave us to try to feed our families on the scraps provided to us. it's a hell of allot better then t used to be but it's still bad. it's just is unspoken these days. we all know what is expected and if we don't do it then we don't get loads for the next month as a punishment -
MOSendero; Do You Remember?
....... "I think, I broke, his F#####g Neck"
Longest Yard ,with Burt Reynolds.... What a great movie !
"That guy throwing hay,.. was dummer than a box of rocks" -
I'm gonna bite my tongue here, no use arguing with a (retired) ILLDOT, kinda like wallowing in the mud with a pig, you get dirty and the pig enjoys it.
I'm done with this ...........Last edited: Mar 30, 2009
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