2000 Pete 379 3406e water/temp light & buzzer won't shut up

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  1. greaseburner

    greaseburner Light Load Member

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    It's not as loud as the low air. Kinda like a scraggly static noise and the temperature/water warning light flickers. Replaced sensors at the front/bottom of the block and also the one up on top by the thermostat housing. No change. You can disconnect both of those sensors and the sensor on the rear of the motor and the buzzer still goes off just continuously and faint. Replaced buzzer also. Thanks
     
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  3. DieselTech_Aus

    DieselTech_Aus Light Load Member

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    temp buzzer and warning light are a peterbuilt system. the cat ECM doesn't control them.

    they're pretty crude. they're just thermal resistors and temperature switches with no failsafe. so when the wiring breaks or deteriorates and the resistance changes so does the gauge/buzzer/light behaviour.

    the cat ECM uses a better quality thermal resistor and in some early 40 pin ECMs they use a 3 wire 5v supplies sensor. this ensures the cat ECM data is accurate. it also has fail safes. it will log codes in the event of open circuit or short circuit. I take the ECM temp as gospel and disregard the truck OEM sensor data.

    given you've replaced the truck OEM sensors with no change its likely the wiring has greater resistance causing the gauge/buzzer/light to be incorrect.
     
  4. greaseburner

    greaseburner Light Load Member

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    So light/buzzer still going off after the sensors are unplugged would or could be just a bad wire?
     
  5. DieselTech_Aus

    DieselTech_Aus Light Load Member

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    depends if the switches are normally open or normally closed. if theyre normally closed the a broken wire will bring on the light/buzzer. if theyre normally open then you either have your signal wire shorted to your return or shorted to ground.
     
  6. Oxbow

    Oxbow Road Train Member

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    Before I got too involved I would disconnect 1 wire from the low air pressure sender, and see if that is it. I have had them cause identical symptoms as you describe. I am not sure about a 2000, but on older 379s the air pressure sender breaks continuity as air pressure reaches 70 psi. If they start to stick the light flickers and the buzzer sort of buzzes intermittently until the sender goes completely.

    It may not be the cause, but it certainly is worth checking before spending much time chasing anything else.
     
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  7. greaseburner

    greaseburner Light Load Member

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    On top by the thermostat housing there are 2 temp sensors. One of those had come loose and the wire was buried under the harness. The end of it was hitting on the head, so the vibration while arcing was creating the just there buzzer noise and light flickering. Had 3 mechanics on it. They couldn't find it So I got my crippled ### up on the tire over looking the top of the motor and took me about 10 seconds.........

    Thanks though for your inputs
     
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  8. Oxbow

    Oxbow Road Train Member

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    Glad you found it!
     
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  9. bourbonst79

    bourbonst79 Bobtail Member

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    I got 96 KW T600 with 3406e. My fan won't come on automatically. Temp gauge reads out fine, but I see thru scanner my Temp sensor reads out -1F. By the thermostat housing there are 2 sensors on top (2wire and 1wire sensor), then one sensor on right side and another from front between engine and fan. Does anybody know which one is which and where is my temperature sensor that controls when to kick on the fan? I appreciate your inputs guys here.... good stuff
     

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