Critical events

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Pokeahohoho, Apr 10, 2019.

  1. Pokeahohoho

    Pokeahohoho Bobtail Member

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    I currently work for prime I got some critical events they have no dash cam so none of them get removed in primes eyes. I have been driving for 2 years no accidents or tickets just these critical events I was told they wouldnt go in my dac report but they can put unsafe driver for reason of leaving. I’m trying to go local cause I’m having a baby so my question is do critical events count as moving violations will the next job I apply to be able to see them ?
     
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  3. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    Companies can give DAC whatever the companies wants to give. DAC just reports what they were told. You can challenge items on your DAC (actually, I think it's called Hire Right these days). My last company only submitted info about me AFTER I left. So at the moment there may not be anything from Prime on your report, if you are still working there. You can challenge any entries on your report. Your DAC, Hire Right report is covered by the same laws as covers credit reports. And like credit reports you are entitled to at least 1 free report per year. You can challenge any item in the report. You have a right to submit a short statement about any item and any company requesting your report will receive your short statement as well. If you request your free report it will take 15 days to see it whether you request a mailed paper copy or an emailed copy of your report.
     
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  4. GreenPete359

    GreenPete359 Road Train Member

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    What were the events? Hard braking, roll over protection???

    If you quit, how can they claim reason for seperation “unsafe driver”. That only works if you’re fired.

    Quit via email. Not Qualcomm. Doing it via dmail you have your own time stamped proof, not some silly picture of of your qc.

    Also (and this is life in general advice) Never ever quit a job until you have a new job! >>>>Not a promise of a job, but an actual job with a start date!!!
     
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  5. Pokeahohoho

    Pokeahohoho Bobtail Member

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    I put in a two week notice a week ago and he called today saying we have to turn the truck in immediately. And blamed it on my critical events but previously when I spoke to him about them before we had to tell prime I was pregnant he said I couldn’t get terminated for critical events I would just bring taking safety classes and said it doesn’t affect dac just rehiring. But I gave a two week notice saying we’re leaving on April 4th
     
  6. Pokeahohoho

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    I put in a two week notice a week ago and he called today saying we have to turn the truck in immediately. And blamed it on my critical events but previously when I spoke to him about them before we had to tell prime I was pregnant he said I couldn’t get terminated for critical events I would just bring taking safety classes and said it doesn’t affect dac just rehiring. But I gave a two week notice saying we’re leaving on April 4th
     
  7. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    DAC does not work like that. When you apply to another carrier they will pull your DAC summary and your drug testing records to comply with 391.2x. If the carrier plans to pre employ testing they wont bother with the testing records. That summary will have.
    1 dates worked.
    2.Reason for leaving
    3 rehire status.

    Critical events are nothing but hard brakes (I had several) and these are going to be ignored by the carrier. Now if you were fired because of them that will be reported and can be seen in the comments section. That's it. People also have wrong information about DAC data entry. The information you got that critical events won't show on DAC was wrong. They MIGHT under some situations. If your record has no accidents or incidents and your MVR is good your good to change jobs, stop worrying about it!

    EDITED: I just wanted based on the next comment to make sure everybody understands what DAC is and what it is not. The thing about DAC is the problem is NOT DAC, it is 391.23! EVEN if a carrier does not use DAC they are STILL MANDATED to get that information on DAC and make it part of a drivers qualification file. This is why I try to caution everybody to understand that information DAC has is REQUIRED! This can NOT be bypassed!
     
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  8. kemosabi49

    kemosabi49 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Companies that you apply to may or may not use Dac. Many smaller companies do not. Either way, no point in worrying about it. Sounds like you have a good driving record so you should just start putting in apps at places that you think will be a good fit for you.
     
  9. WesternPlains

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    You should ask DOT about DAC.
    There is a reason DOT keeps safety violations off your drivers license.
     
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  10. Bean Jr.

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    100% incorrect. Hirerite is a voluntary clearing house for data not required by 391.23. 391.23 is on the hiring carrier. "(a) Except as provided in subpart G of this part, each motor carrier shall make the following investigations and inquiries with respect to each driver it employs, other than aperson who has been a regularly employeddriver of the motor carrier for a continuous period which began before January 1, 1971:". The previous employer must respond to that request, not preemptively provide the info to a third party clearing house. Nothing in 391.23 requires the kind of info that is provided to DAC, such as truck and load abandonment, customer service failures, "severe incidents", etc.
     
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  11. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    No, I'm sorry but it don't work that simple. This is hard to get across but I will try. I have no doubt that DAC has information not required by 391.23. That however was not my point. However I did misspeak with this comment >EVEN if a carrier does not use DAC they are STILL MANDATED to get that information on DAC and make it part of a drivers qualification file. < That should have been written >Even if a carrier does not use DAC they are STILL MANDATED to get certain information DAC as a service provides manually directly from the old employer, and make it part of a drivers qualification file.< DAC does provide parts of the information required by 391.23. However I admit not all information aggregated by DAC is required.

    The reason I even made such a comment was because some comments made in this thread as well as some others make it seem that going to a carrier that chooses to not use DAC services makes things go away. This is not that simple because 391.23 requires (SOME) of the information DAC provides anyway. The way DAC is setup once they pull a report on a driver and that report accounts for all periods of employment that Drivers file is all but finished. This is particularly nice during that yearly review.

    I am not a DAC shrill, in fact up till last summer I was helping drivers get things entered in DAC in error fixed. This is the way bad data gets on DAC.
     
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