PTDI vs non-PTDI schools?

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  1. MYSTYKRACER

    MYSTYKRACER Medium Load Member

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    So I'm going to be taking classes at Houston Community College and I was there getting info yesterday and noticed that they are certified by PTDI.

    I'm curious if this makes a difference in the kinds of companies a new driver can be hired on by or is it just a marketing fluff credential? I did a search on here for PTDI certification but most of the threads were a couple years old so I'm curious if anyone has recent experience in the last year or so?

    . . . and yeah, I know "the real learning" starts when you get out in the real world. I'm just curious if completing a "certified" training program can make a difference in the quality of employers you can shoot for even as a noob OR if it will make a difference in the kind of money you can ask for?
     
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  3. mitrucker

    mitrucker Road Train Member

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    PTDI means absolutely nothing. Most trucking company people have no clue about it.
     
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    I've never heard of it before, probably trying to start up some certification companies like they did with nurse assistants and medical office personnel when it got big.
     
  5. skellr

    skellr Road Train Member

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    Anyplace requiring a certification like that is going to be so anal that you wouldn't want to work for them anyway.
     
  6. COBB2070

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    Looks like a real up to date training manuals there,,,[​IMG]
     
  7. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    PTDI is a type of accreditation for CDL schools. However, it does NOT meant any and every trucking company that hires newbies will accept your CDL school certificate along with your CDL. Some trucking companies only hire students that graduate from CDL schools they and their insurance company are familiar with.

    I assume the whole purpose of going to CDL school is to get a job. If so, I think the smartest way to go is find the trucking company FIRST and then go to CDL school where/how that employer prefers. CDL school is not a 4 year university where you will have many days, weeks, months, years to decide where to work. While you are in school several trucking companies will probably make presentations. MOST newbies in class will think those companies are their only options and that they must be good companies or the school would not allow them in the class. NONE of that is true.

    There are some terrible trucking companies that primarily recruit at CDL schools because that's where the "fresh meat" is. There are some good companies that also recruit at CDL schools. Trucking companies at CDL school implies nothing about whether the company is good for you or other students. I suggest trucking companies are like shoes. There are obviosuly cheap and terrible shoes that won't last a month of daily wear. There are also some shoes that cost many thousands of dollars, made of the most expensive materials, and are hardly meant to even be outside. Then there are others that are decent. If you have large or small feet but you choose to wear very expensive or very inexpensive shoes that are 5 sizes from your actual foot size you will not be happy and have bad results from wearing them.

    Know your needs for money, benefits, hometime, work conditions and then pick the "shoes" that fit those needs.
     
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  8. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    PTDI was started a few years ago after several bogus CDL schools were busted for essentially selling licenses with little training. PTDI suggests the CDL school meets some minimum level of competency, but it does not mean more than that. After PTDI started some big trucking companies wanted newbies to come from PTDI schools. More recently, the more selective companies seem to want their newbies to come from 160 Hour CDL schools. I'm guessing almost any 160 Hour CDL school is also PTDI certified.
     
  9. MYSTYKRACER

    MYSTYKRACER Medium Load Member

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    Good advice. I've been doing some research and called a few companies to try and get a sense of if they hire new CDL grads for tanker work and what they offer?

    So far I've talked to:
    Schneider tanker - They take new CDL grads and they're training facility is here in Houston. Training is five weeks mix of class room, skills training and tests and on the road. Training is paid $80/day but based on anecdotal reports initial pay and miles could be lacking. Schneider also offers tuition reimbursement for CDL school ( even if you paid out of pocket ) paid @ $200/mo after the first 30 days.

    Superior Carriers - Typically requires one year CDL experience HOWEVER they have an "Entry Level" driver program if you graduate from an approved training program. HCC is on their list of approved training programs and the recruiter I spoke to actually said that it is one of the better programs they've worked with in the region, very good reputation for producing quality new driver grads. To apply w/ Superior new grads need to have tanker & hazmat endorsements + TWIC card and a passport. After completing CDL school *IF* there is a position open new CDL grads can hire on and complete six weeks of paid training @ $20/hr at their facility in South Carolina. After completing training new hires start at the standard pay rate of .53cpm loaded / .45cpm unloaded. Depending on the home location there's a mix of regional or system freight runs. Regional drivers are usually home for weekends and maybe 1 day during the week. System drivers are usually out 10-12 days and home 2. The recruiter I spoke to wouldn't speak to specific miles or pay ( wisely ) but anecdotal research seems to indicate even new drivers can gross around $70k in the first year w/ descent home time.

    Highway Transport - Requires one year CDL experience due to insurance requirements. No exceptions though the person I talked to once again said they'd heard good things about the HCC CDL program. In order to work here you need to have tanker + hazmat and TWIC + passport. Pay rate seems very similar to Superior Carriers and interestingly enough Highway Transport's largest terminal is in the Houston area where they run regional and otr.

    A&R Logistics - I've called three times and left two messages. Still waiting on a call back.

    I have a few more companies I'd like to talk too but at this point Superior Carriers is looking like the best deal. However, even if I had to start off w/ Schneider for a year or so and then move over I don't think it would be a bad deal.
     
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  10. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    I've heard nothing but good about Superior Carriers. Houston is a great place for tanker work.
     
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  11. MYSTYKRACER

    MYSTYKRACER Medium Load Member

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    Yeah, the thing that sucks is I found out HCC has a waiting list to get in to class until September unless someone drops and a spot opens up for July or August. Oh well, gonna use the time the best I can and study up on getting my permits, TWIC card, passport renewed, etc.
     
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