CDL School vs Community College

WIA is wasting a lot of taxpayers money training drivers where there is already an oversupply of drivers . I've already written my Representative and e-mailed a local tv reporter criticizing his report claiming people losing jobs were getting jobs trucking . He couldn't name one person that left another career and got a job trucking and while he quoted the owner of a local trucking company as saying there was a spike in applications that company wasn't hiring . This was an Indiana station . There has been a 30% increase in CDL applications in Indiana . I provided the reporter with statistics to make him realize the actual state of the trucking industry and told him it would greatly benefit the public for him to do an investigative report on money being wasted to train people for nonexistent jobs . I also emphasized the validity of school training has a limited lifespan . Many graduates take so long to find a job they are told they will need a refresher course .

 

As opposed to training they could get for existing jobs? Do you expect bubba to hang up his hard hat at the auto plant and put on one of those cute little nursing hats?

I can't speak for Indiana, but in Georgia the WIA doesn't pay until the student is employed. and the CDL program is the only program that is under that type of constraint.

 

Real showing of you there , implying your Bubba students aren't intelligent enough to learn another trade . Iconsider that an insult to all our members . You are also insulting male nurses . There are careers other than nursing that have openings . As far as the student being employed , how long does that last for many . BTW , I wrote to the DOL ETA demanding to know why they continue to waste taxpayers money by adding to the oversupply of truck drivers .

 

I didn't imply that at all. In reference to the WIA, they basically train people in a few different types of careers. Trucking, nursing, dental assistant, and education fields top the list as the WIA wants to train drivers in careers where there is a reasonable opportunity of getting a job once the training is complete. It is a reasonable assumption that a man who is used to working blue collar in the auto industry would probably prefer a trucking job over a nursing job.

The metaphor in my statement referred to the different hats worn by the differing professions and wasn't a slight toward nurses, male or female.

Good luck with your letter. I sent a letter to the WIA today also, accepting a top notch applicant into my training program. Mine was on letterhead. It also included four letters from companies that want this man to go to work for them. They listen to my letters because I back them up with jobs. Not job offers, but jobs, that are verified by the WIA to ensure that their money was well spent. Amazingly enough, these non-existent jobs produce real paychecks.

 

Yeah , we've heard all about these bottom feeder companies that have drivers quit in a few months . Let us know how long your top notch applicant puts up with them before you send them another to replace him . Are they increasing their fleet size or did a driver get killed or go to jail ?

 

I would be happy to tell you how long my top notch applicant "puts up with them" but talk is cheap, and you haven't listened to or believed anything I have said so far, so what's the point?

90% of the turnover in the trucking industry is voluntary and only 10% is involuntary. We know that these companies aren't increasing their fleet sizes, so statistically speaking, it is probably most likely that a driver quit his job, creating an opening.

Why did he quit? The number one reason is that he was lied to by a recruiter, creating mis trust and dissatisfaction with the company. I can only try to make sure that my top notch applicant is better informed and better prepared for the job than that.

 

Now we're almost coming to agreement . There are job openings mostly because of dissatisfied employees . But if your applicant is better informed would he even go to the available companies if he knew the truth ?
Many drivers also quit because of low mileage . That isn't going to improve in a hurry .

 

This is a quote from "Consumer and Student Guide to CDL Training, Truck Driving Schools, and Trucking Jobs"


"There is only one organization that currently certifies truck driving courses: The Professional Truck Driver Institute (PTDI), located in Alexandria, Virginia. PTDI certification is voluntary. A school is not required to become certified. But a certified school is probably the best guarantee that a truck driving school maintains high truck driver training standards.
PTDI has developed three sets of strict standards that they apply to truck driving schools that want to be certified. PTDI will inspect the school and determine whether the standards are met. If they are met, the school's course is certified (schools are not certified) and the school can advertise that it teaches a course certified by PTDI. The three standards are for Skills, Knowledge and Curriculum. Skill standards are the basic skills an entry level driver should have (shifting, backing, vehicle inspection, etc.). As you might guess, knowledge standards describe the basic information a driver should know (how to plan a trip, licensing requirements, accident procedures and cargo documentation, for example). Finally, PTDI's curriculum standards identify the minimum course of instruction a truck driving school must present, including topics addressed and hours required for class, truck lab and driving. PTDI's standards for a school in this regard are very high. For example, PTDI requires that every student individually have at least 44 hours of driving instruction behind the wheel. That's a lot of driving time, and it cannot include any hours observing. (See Observation Time below).
There a number of advantages to PTDI certification. Students know that the training should be high quality, that they will receive a lot of driving experience and that the school has made the extra effort to demonstrate it is committed to the best training. Plus, the trucking industry has great respect for PTDI graduates because they know they are getting the best. They also know that their own company "finishing training" training costs will be lower because the student is well trained already. So, students that graduate from a top quality program benefit in the wallet as well because they require less training by the employer. Therefore they can drive solo sooner and earn more money faster. New drivers that attend short programs or get inadequate training can get stuck in the carrier's training program at a low weekly pay rate for a long time. We think PTDI sets a great standard that benefits everyone."


I hope this helps some. I plan on attending CDL College Truck Driving School in Aurora Colorado in the first quarter of 2012. It is PTDI Certified. I am sure there are other schools that are PTDI Certified also, but I live in Grand Junction Colorado and I plan on attending soon and applying to Stevens Transport for work.

There are many considerations and this is just one. I know of one school that is PTDI certified but after visiting their school, I wouldn't go there. They are much closer to me but the trucks they use are old and beat up. CDL College school trucks are much nicer and newer. I don't want to mention their name because you know the old saying "If you don't have anything nice to say ........................................."


gary

 

Thats complete nonsense.

You spew the same stuff all over every post and its outright false information.

Call Schneider, theyre hiring. TMC, theyre hiring, McElroy....theyre hiring.....so is Werner, KLLM, US Xpress, Maverick, Boyd Brothers, Roehl, CT transport, Builders Supply Warehouse, Trans Am, Danny Herman, MDS, Crete, Colonial, Western Express, SMX, Rosedale.


The list goes on and on and on and on and on.

Every single one of them is hiring student drivers with clean backgrounds and driving records.......EVERY ONE OF THEM!!

There are jobs out there.....thousands upon thousands of jobs are available all the time with quality carriers that pay great.

Some of those flatbed companies I named are paying $.40+ a mile and guys are getting 2500-3000 miles a week! Walking out of school with nothing but a GED and 3 weeks of training to make $50,000+ a year. I know because I did it!


I dont know what your beef is but its unfair to people who come here and dont know that you are talking nonsense and read that dribble and think that theres no work out there.

You are completely misinformed at best or working with a personal agenda of deception at worst.






That being said I dont agree with WIA. Its more tax payer funding to pay for other people to get a job when they should be pulling their own weight. The schools should be providing better finance options and students shouldnt expect the taxpayers to cover their training costs.

 

O.K . , you know so much tell me the number of vehicles in those carriers' fleets this year compared to last year then tell me how many newbies they hired during that time . You mentioned Werner hiring ? "Werner proactively adapted to the softer freight market conditions by reducing its average fleet size by 10% when comparing third quarter 2009 to third quarter 2008. Fewer trucks and 1% lower miles per truck reduced the Company's total miles by 11% over this same period, "
http://www.istockanalyst.com/article/viewiStockNews/articleid/3562484
So why are they constantly hiring ?
Then explain to me what the word turnover means . "The driver turnover rate at large truckload carriers rose to 89 percent in the third quarter, as trucking companies struggled to hire and retain experienced drivers." Retain is the key word there . Newbies find out they can't hack the abuse . http://www.joc.com/truckload/truckload-driver-turnover-rate-hits-89-percent
Plenty of members have told how half the students hired were rejected at orientation , more by trainers .
Yeah , about 10% make it like you did but far more go home hanging their head and in deb t .