What else do I need to haul Hazmat?

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Msticlaru, Apr 30, 2009.

  1. Mike_MD

    Mike_MD Medium Load Member

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    Coonass:

    :biggrin_25513:

    Sorry but RQ has to do with hazardous substances, not placards. Placards are driven by Part 172.504, not Part 172.101.

    Placards has two table, Table 1 requires placards for any amount transported. Table 2 requires placards for quantites of 1,001 pounds or more.

    RQ has more to do with EPA regulated materials:

    The RQ is per package based on the substance. Placards are driven by the Class, i.e. 1.1, 2.1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, or 9.

    Etholene Glycole has an RQ of 5,000 pounds per package. The material requires ID marking on bulk cargo tanks but no placards for domestic transportation.

    Close counts in horse shoes and hand grenades, not HM. :biggrin_2559:

    Be safe.
     
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  3. ironpony

    ironpony Road Train Member

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    Wrong! Close counts in horse shoes only! Any quantity of hand grenades will require a placard!!

    :biggrin_2559:
     
  4. Coonass

    Coonass "Freshy Fresh"

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    That was MrKnowItAll (mike) not me (Coonass).
     
  5. Mike_MD

    Mike_MD Medium Load Member

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    Coonass there are three ways to do things.

    1. The Right Way
    2. The Wrong Way
    3. My way

    My way is typically the right way. :biggrin_25523:

    I appreciate your confidence, any time you find my post in error please feel free to point out the discrepancy. :biggrin_25515:

    Be safe.
     
  6. Coonass

    Coonass "Freshy Fresh"

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    Its simple if any hazardous substance is a RQ (reportable quanitity) than it has
    to be placarded. If not it requires no placards.

    I know this is right no matter what you say, I've been hauling hazmat long enough
    to know that. I don't claim to know-it-all like you but I do know a thing or two.

    Good day sir.
     
  7. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    Mike also mentioned additional training by the employer . The hazmat endorsement does not qualify a driver for hauling hazmat without the required employer training which has to be renewed every 3 years .
    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/spanish/english/pdfs/05-training.htm[/FONT]

    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Mike never said he knows it all but I guarantee if he doesn't know the answer he has the resources to get it and you can rely on his info as being accurate . The forum is fortunate to have him , psanderson , and a couple of other knowledgeable members to clear up controversy regarding regulations . [/FONT]
     
  8. Mike_MD

    Mike_MD Medium Load Member

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    Coonass:

    I see I've managed to stir the pot and have a member up in arms. :biggrin_25515:

    Coonass I am going to give you two examples of materials that meet the RQ for reportable quatities:


    Xylene100 (45.4)
    Saccharin & salts100 (45.4)

    I chose these two hazardous subatances because one is a Class 3 flammable and the other is an environmental hazard:

    Xylene is used in Class 3 flammables.

    Xylene that meets the RQ may have a basic description as follows:

    RQ, UN1993, Flammable Liquids (Xylene), 3, II, one IBC (intermediate bulk container)

    or UN1993, Flammable Liquids (Xylene) RQ, 3, II

    Per:

    For those wondering about the sequence:

    Notice the reference to "Hazardous Substances" for the letters RQ. You can have a hazardous substance and not have HM; however, you can have HM that is a hazardous substance.

    Saccharin & salts100 (45.4)

    Saccharin is a CERCLA controlled substance per:

    http://www.sciencelab.com/xMSDS-Saccharin-9924849

    See section 14 regarding DOT issues and section 15 for the hazards associated with saccharin. Because saccharin & salts are listed in the hazardous substances table (not the HM Table). If a shipment reaches the RQ a shipping paper is required. For domestic transportation Placards would not be required as it is a Class 9 material.

    UN3082, Environmentally Hazardous Substance Liquid NOS (Saccharin & Salts) RQ, 9, III.

    So Coonass, there you have it. All of the facts you need to become more knowledgeable of the HMR and when RQ would have to be used.

    I've said it twice and I'll say it again.... RQ has to do with hazardous substances, not placards. You can have a hazarodus substance and not have a HM; however, you you may have a HM that is a hazardous substance. :biggrin_2554:

    I have issues with folks offering advice when they don't have their facts straight.

    Be safe.
     
  9. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    One more thing about the additional training required in addition to the endorsement . You will be given a card showing the date of training and expiration date 3 years from that date . I have been asked to show this card during a Level 1 inspection .
     
  10. bubbavirus

    bubbavirus Medium Load Member

    my DL expires every three years, now I know, taking the test at eight o'cllock tomorrow morning (on the TV, not written), canonly miss 5 out of forty questions I hear.
     
  11. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    Be careful. Sometimes the answers they want are wrong . One is they still say you have to check tires every 100 miles or 2 hours when transporting hazmat . Not true , but that is the "correct" answer . Several about which materials can be combined in a load and which placards to use .
     
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