Mexican carriers allege ‘billions’ in damages in Notice of Arbitration

Those were just general examples. Under bilateral trade things can be amended and canceled when needed, instead of being bound by an international body.

As somebody who has lived and worked in Mexico, I can tell you that there is a middle class down there that buys American cars. The Avocado bit was just an example.

California is an absolute nightmare and is getting what it deserves! I am waiting for the day when trucking companies decide to dump all CA-bound loads on its border and not enter the state. The whackos are now considering a time limit on APU usage as well!

 

How many times has Mexico had a thriving "Middle Class"?

I have seen the middle class in Mexico become poor as church mice several times in my life.

 

The only ones that get up here are the best drivers i have two uncles that do border crossings leaving 53,s coming from Mexico into the us. Only the top companies get into the us they just don't wave any old bum into the united states we work hard for what we have.Don't know about California thats a whole different story but we work hard for what we have don't the we just sit around those are the other type of Mexicans the ones that don't care.

 

Luis....
NAFTA is way too one-sided.....
From the US O/O perspective many of us would not or can not run in Mexico.....

For us to get authority for Mexico is more difficult than the reverse...


I had a deal where my trailer was to have been dropped in San Ysidro, and a Mexican driver would pick it up and take it to the shipper in Mexico. The broker said it was safe and that the company although was in Mexico... was a US company....
A quick search and we found the company was a Mexican company who we called to ask about liability while my trailer was in Mexico.
I was still responsible for my trailer even though a Mexican driver was going to pick it up. So if he got into an accident....I was still liable....
My insurance company told me that unless I purchased additional insurance to cover theft and liability that my policy would not be sufficient in Mexico...even though I'm covered for $2 million.....
If my trailer was damaged or stolen I was SOL....
So I called the whole deal off much to the chagrin of the broker...who btw is no longer in business....

Many American O/O's are leery of operating near border towns especially now....I can't imagine many would want to venture further in...especially at night....and in a country where Americans have no "due process"...

Mexico is not the United States.....That's probably why Mexican drivers want to run up here because they'll receive more pay and are hassled a lot less by the legal authorities...

 

Its not a huge one, but it does cover about a third of the populations.

Yes they get screwed time and time again by big government corruption and wealth redistribution, but despite that there are many people there that work their ##### off and make it.

Now look at what is happening to America's middle class! A lot of what Obama has been proposing was tried and failed in Mexico. The petition-style union elections are even the norm down there, leaving things open for intimidation and employer-friendly "Sindicatos Blancos" where the union bosses, the corrupt politicians, and the corporate elite that pay the bribes unite openly without shame under law.

NAFTA has also screwed the Mexican farmers beyond imagination because of their inability to compete with US subsidized farm products. Its almost like it was done by design to use economic privileges to drive the ejidatarios and small farmers off of the land and send them north to the United States.

I am fed up as well with what has been ramrodded down our throats and would like to see the governmental bodies of NAFTA dissolved and a return to case by case trade decisions that are directly decided on by our Congress.

You would be surprised at how many Mexicans don't like NAFTA and are complaining about their loss of sovereignty and the economic devastation it has caused to their small farmers. Ironically many blame it all on the "Gringos", who they think all love and benefit from this arrangement. I might be jousting the windmills, but I have been trying to unite anti-NAFTA and anti-NWO people on both sides of the border to protest and influence our respective governments in a pro-sovereignty, freedom, and limited government direction.

In conclusion too many people aware of the problem are wanting to place blanket blame on people who weren't necessarily the architects or proponents of these swindles. We need to go after the one world government (NWO, CFR, Bilderberg, Davos) elites and fight to defeat their attacks on our sovereignty. Heck look at the protests over the G20 in Europe by regular citizens! They are blaming "American Warmongers" for the situation and the globalization while many Americans are under the impression that Europeans in general want to sink us.

The enemy is attacking all around and on many fronts, whether through NAFTA, G20 summits, the EU, or the UN.

 

I'll second that,have them meet at the Love's in coachella,i'll fill up at least 3 trucks with fuel!!!!

 

I'm waiting to see how this shakes out,could the honeymoon of teamsters/bamo be over soon??I've got 8 trucks for the relocation effort,4 are car haulers so we'll pack the cars full of "undocumented workers" and haul them down.

 

There is nothing here that touches on our sovereignty or any of the others in this tri-lateral agreement. The arbitration process is not open to public scrutiny nor should it be. Look at some of your lender contracts, credit card agreements etc. You'll see on most, you've agreed to settle any dispute through binding arbitration. You sit down with your creditor and a neutral arbitrator and iron out your differences. That is between the two of you. The public has no need, no right to know your business.

All this is a business dispute.

You are correct that in a perfect world, there would be no need for a governing panel. But in todays world, it all comes down to screw the little man. There has to be guidelines.

Even with those guidelines, the US has had an unfair trade advantage over Mexico with our subsidized grains, specifically corn, putting many small farmers out of business, many of which migrate here illegally to support their families.

We've also had issues with Canada over the soft timber issue and other things of concern.

Mexican avocados aren't allowed in this country (although that is about to change) thanks to the efforts of California Avocado Growers Association and others. You ever seen or tasted a Mexican avocado, you'll know why. They're twice the size of an American grown guac and with a flavor that is out of this world.

US Cars are exported to Mexico. Some are built in Mexico and imported here. US pickups are a hot item there as well as great marques of autos that our EPA rules ran out of this country years ago. Fiat, Renault, Peugeot, SEAT and others.

There really isn't such a thing as Mexican appliances per se. The appliances manufactured there are Sony, LG and others, the same you buy in Sears etc. The true Mexican appliances, stoves, refrigerators etc, wouldn't be much good for anything other than a dorm room or a studio apartment, they're so small and compact.

 

US manufactured goods will soon be a moot subject.
US citizens demand a higher standard of living than the labor costs can support. Mexicans might be able to live comfortably on say $10K a year...Americans cannot.
This whole thing started back in the late 80's..... For example,Mitsubishi relocated its plant from Anaheim to a couple of Mexican cities....lower labor costs, even back then, labor costs were an issue.

 

Just a quick note. Both OOIDA, Landline mag & etrucker web sites report that US Secretary o Transportation Ray LaHood announced Thursday Mexican open border in June. Permanent not temporary.