pressure from dispatch

Discussion in 'Trucker Legal Advice' started by foxieone, May 29, 2009.

  1. foxieone

    foxieone Bobtail Member

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    I'm a turcker wife. Im wondering how much pressure dispatch can put on a driver when they KNOW he's almost out of hours. How is this covered up. He's driven more 40 plus years with out an accident. Greyhound for 29, a local interstate for 11, Wash. Oregon.
    After two gruling work days, Yakima, Portland long pick up and delivery, with little sleep, then back to Yakima and some pressure from dispatch to make the long run form Yakima to Seattle before he came back to Portland. He had a rear end with another truck. He saw no lights in the other trailer, but when he got done know one could say if they were there or not! No accidents before outside of a loading dock fender bender. Had a choice resign or be fired! He took way too much pride in this company, and is pretty much broken. I'd like to know how this happens and what is legal.
    I do know that a "No" to dispatch is usually punished.
     
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  3. bigcountry30

    bigcountry30 Light Load Member

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    This would be a very hard case to prove without witnesses hearing this and backing up his story. Or a recording of the "forced" illegal running. You might contact a lawyer that is up on the trucking industry just to consult for a better opinion, but ultimately he would of had a better case if he refused the trip and they would have fired him. Good Luck
     
  4. dancnoone

    dancnoone "Village Idiot"

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    There's a lot of pressure from dispatchers, all the time.

    I get it, all the time. Impossible schedules, etc etc. If you ever back down, they'll take advantage of you every chance they get.

    I've forced my own dispatchers hand twice in the past 6 days.

    Once for requesting I drive 120 miles in DFW rush hour traffic, holiday weekend, on a Friday. With only 1.5 hours remaining on my 11.

    The other, with a 875 mile trip and 20 hours to run it. In a 65 mph truck, still in need of a 10 break.

    If they ever smell blood......
     
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  5. Kabar

    Kabar Road Train Member

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    Dispatch will "force" you to do what every you will let them get away with. They will never have a record of this so if/when something happens it's all on the driver. I always tell them upfront that I ONLY run legal and that if that makes the load late, oh well. I'm not going to jail for some load. They hate it when I stand my ground but they hate it more when I bring safety in on it. Safety doesn't care when the load dels. Only that they don't have to del with an accident
     
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  6. dancnoone

    dancnoone "Village Idiot"

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    I pissed a customer off over this yesterday LMAO "Firm Delivery Time"

    I asked when the receiver closed, he told me, and I responded it was going to be tight. Then he said it only took 6 hours, and I said "In a car"

    Then he got ugly, and asked "Are you telling me you can't drive 300 miles in 6 hours?"

    I said, "Not since you loaded the only trailer on the entire yard, that has a flat"

    They arranged for the shipper to stay open a couple of extra hours... :biggrin_25520:

    He don't like me much anymore :D
     
  7. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    I had dispatch try to get me a load that required the truck to be able to run 100 mph for 5 hours to deliver.

    I said I would take the load on 2 conditions:
    1. You pay all tickets.
    2. You provide the truck that can do 100 mph.

    Amazing, they would not let the planners dispatch it.
     
  8. DoubleDear

    DoubleDear Light Load Member

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    You're right on the money with that post Kabar. Everyone needs to be upfront with dispatchers and learn to stand their ground. They can moan and groan all they want.

    Most dispatchers comes straight out of college and don't know diddly squat on how many hours it takes to go so many miles. , they just assume you can get it there on time.

    Being upfront with them,, and letting them know that you can't make it due to out of hours or no time to get there, in most cases they will honor what you say. Like, " I Need Sleep!".
    But the biggest problem is, Most drivers are "afraid' speak up.

    So what if you ruffle their feathers a bit. If they start getting an attitude and play games in not giving you runs, then you need to talk to someone over and above their head about the situation.

    Your self worth should be more than the fines, accidents and poor health, that can occur.
    The Legal thing to do, is learning how to speak up beforehand, so you don't get into a bad situation out on the road.

    Is your husband still working for the company foxieone? Or did they let him loose?
    Does he have logs to verify how he actually ran?
    If a person made his logs out, like the way dispatch ran a driver,, He can use those logs against the company. The company has to keep those logs on file in case they are audited. Companies don't like that.
    There's way to get back at the company.
     
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  9. LandShark

    LandShark Road Train Member

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    if and when my dispatcher starts to push me I tell him "You Drive the #### Truck Then"....then he will generally ask when I think I can be where it is the load needs to be...I also have a habit of Rescheduling my own loads, If its ridiculous I call the broker or shipper or reciever and explain that I AM NOT going to be there at the appointed time and that it needs to be rescheduled...never had a problem on this except once...and dispatch said that I was the driver and they handled dispatch and then I offered that I was assisting them due to the fact that they might not have realized what they were asking me to do was Illegal....Problem solved.
     
  10. 25(2)+2

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    Scheduled loads running line haul with a schedule of departures can get a dispatcher into trouble, especially one that refuses to adjust departure times so you can make it in 14 hours with 11 hours driving or less.

    If you get loaded late you end up short of the objective unless you cheat on hours and, or, drive tired.
     
  11. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    You're mostly right except often there is a record of it if Qualcomm messages are sent . This was the case where the Crete driver was pushed to run illegaly and killed 7 kids . In the end though it was only the driver that was jailed . Drivers that violate HOS have no excuse . It's on them .
     
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