15 yrs. experience...haven't driven for 1 1/2 yrs. Need some advice

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by dynosaur, May 14, 2009.

  1. dynosaur

    dynosaur Light Load Member

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    I've driven trucks for about 15 yrs., flatbeds, tankers, reefers, dry vans, and (gawd help me!) containers. But, for the last 1 1/2 yrs. I've been out of the truck. The first year was due to MVR points for violations that my company's Safety Dept. had classified as 'Not Safety-related violations'. The other 6 mos. I was caring for a friend with cancer and recently passed away. Probably, 75% of jobs were OTR. Now, I'm hearing, repeatedly, "Get some recent experience and call back." I was hoping I could get some fresh input on options I may have. I am willing to put wage and benefits concerns on hold, in favor of getting that elusive 'recent driving experience'. I would be willing to even go out with a trainer; but I have never heard of that: An experienced driver going out with a trainer. Is that an option? And, Has anyone ever heard of that? J.B. Hunt has offered OTR, but I am a little leery about them due to the accounts I've read on this forum about the high number of drivers failing to get hired at Orientation. Other than that, yeah, I would work for Hunt, regardless of mileage problems, low pay, or anything else, in order to get some drive time under my belt.
     
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  3. keelady

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    My business partner was in the same boat as you a few years back -- except he had been off the road longer. Friend of his was an independant who let him go with him on some runs to make sure he remembered how to do it, and then let him make a couple of short runs for him when he had family obligations. When he went to look for a 'real' job, he used that for his recent experience. He worked a couple of months for a local trucking company (real yucky equipment) then ran containers for JB Hunt for about 6 months. He didn't have any problems with JB, but got tired of running in and out of Chicago so much. That gave him time to check out other companies and he's been at his current company for over 4 years now. If you know an independant who will vouch for you, use them. If not, JB isn't the worst thing you can do, just don't stay there too long. When he left, he didn't quit -- took a leave of absence for a family illness, started the new job, then told them he wasn't coming back. That way he was sure they wouldn't ding his DAC report and cause him problems finding a new company. Good luck.
     
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  4. didntitellu

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    I had a "student" in the same position last year. He had 17 years experience but he took a year off when he got married. They made him go out with a trainer. I got to be that trainer. Honestly I was thankful for it. I learned a lot from him!! Some companies also now are asking for a refresher course. Sad thing there too because you would likely have more experience than the instructors. It's rough out here right now for anyone but in your position it's almost worse. I know we would take you but they would ask the same things everyone else is. So frankly your best bet is to find a outfit that you can tolerate for a few months.

    I know I didnt help much. Sorry friend I wish I had better answers. Whatever you decide I wish you the best!!
     
  5. PAJ1979

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    Its a mighty upsidedown industry that makes a 17 year vet go out for "training" with a 2 year driver :biggrin_2554:

    I dunno if I'd say driving a truck is just like riding a bicycle, but after 17 years and probably a couple million miles, you're not going to forget how after a year honeymoon! Why do we stand for companies treating the most experienced drivers like this?
     
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  6. didntitellu

    didntitellu Light Load Member

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    Paj I couldnt agree more. When I picked him up at the motel and he told me his experience and his story I couldnt do anything but apologize. I told him from day 1 I was not going to pretend to be his trainer. If he felt he needed that I needed to find him someone else. The only things I could offer him were company policy and our qcomm procedures. Other than that I asked him to pass along any of his knowledge he was willing to share.

    In spite of the ridiculous fact that it happened he was a great guy and I learned more from him than I expected too. I think he was kind of relieved that I was not going to play the trainer role with him. Who are we kidding my 2 years to his 17?? What could I possibly offer this guy??
     
  7. dynosaur

    dynosaur Light Load Member

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    I have a frien who owns a trucking company here and I am going to do exactly that, run for him, even if only one the books. The part that's scary about your post is that J.B. Hunt gave me an open offer, "Call two weeks before you're ready to com in." I feel the same way as you do, I've also given this advice to many newbies. "If you want to get in a truck, you have to pay your dues and take what's available." Well, like you say, for my purposes it probably the best I can do for the moment. I'm single, with no children or deependents, so I can afford to take a hit in pay. Thanks for the advice, it's reassuring to hear someone propose a plan that I already am pursuing. That's exactly what I was looking for.
     
  8. dynosaur

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    If you read my original post you'll see that I was after two things; 1) What advice anyone might offer, given my situation; 2) Has anybody ever seen or heard of an experienced driver hiring on with a company by agreeing to go out with a trainer? It was very important to me to hear what you had to say. I have never heard of that being done and was uncomfortable about proposing that to a recruiter, nor, have I done so as of yet. I have no problem going out with a trainer, and I truly believe there is much that can be learned from a trainer with marginal driving experience. You see, I have never driven for any of the large carriers. Expressions like "T-call were Greek to me until recently, as I read this forums posts. There's a great deal for me to learn about how these companies, especially when my experience is a brief QualComm message, "Pick up 3K cs. orange for Safeway, Sacramento. I think it could be a good thing; as long as I don't get a knucklehead. So, thank you for providing some very helpful information that I'll lose no time in making use of.
     
  9. dynosaur

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    You never lose it. I have had a few gaps like this in the past and it just comes right back.
    Actually, I have more trouble adjusting to driving a 4-wheeler because of being so low to the ground; especially backing one up---I'm always turning the wheel the wrong way. Oh, yeah, my friends really love it when, while driving their car, I forget to use the clutch and try to float the gears. I really don't get it though; they'll put a driver with a couple of months in their truck, but not a driver with many years of experience on the outside chance you may have forgotten how to drive; yet put a newbie in a truck with nothing to have forgotten---go figure! Thanks to you all for taking the time to answer.
     
  10. DoubleDear

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    You're barking up the wrong tree if you really believe that you have to go on with a company that's going to provide you with a " trainer", that has less experience than you?

    What a bunch of hogwash! JB Hunt and many other so called Trucking companies out there. Just because you've been away from driving for some time, doesn't mean that you've lost the experience. It just means the company can pay you less mileage, by placing you under a trainer.

    There are many companies that will still hire on drivers that have been away from it for some time. That's only an insurance thing they have with their own insurance company.
    Check on Craigslist in your area and you'll find some work. Go with a smaller company who's insurance won't discriminate a mark against you.
    You don't need to go in that direction, for a company to tell you after 15 years of experience that you have, to run with a trainer! What a Joke!

    The companies also have to consider the Total years of Experience , that you have, against the amount of time you lost.

    Find some Container work that goes to the Rails and Piers. You'll find work there and it even pays better too.
     
  11. Jet Lag

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    I have similar experience.
    Last year I found that companies farm out a lot of the recruiting inquiries to local (some not so local) Human Resource agencies. If your experience does not fit exactly the pigeon hole they have been given, you are disqualified there. The company actually loses out on good people with this cheap system. But its what their bean counters want.
    So don't take it personally. They really are idiotic about it. I like the rest of the posts that recommend smaller (and smarter) companies to pursue.
    Good luck.:thumbleft:
     
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