NEW HOS (Hours Of Service) brought from down under

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by RIBS, Jun 7, 2009.

DO YOU THINK THESE HOURS OF SERVICE WOULD WORK

Poll closed Jul 8, 2009.
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    YES

    50.0%
  2. NO

    10.0%
  3. NOT SURE

    20.0%
  4. NO WAY

    20.0%
  1. RIBS

    RIBS Bobtail Member

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    In any period of... 5 Hours and 30 Minutes

    Driver you must not DRIVE AND WORK for more than a total of 5 Hours.

    And must have a REST peroid of no less than 30 Minutes, either as one peroid or two periods of 15 minutes each.

    Which means: you can drive for 5 and then take half hour OR you can drive for 2 1/2 hours and take 15min and then drive for another 2 1/2 and take another 15 min.

    In any peroid of... 24 Hours

    Driver you must not DRIVE AND WORK for more than a total of 14 hours
    (Maximum 12 hours Driving)

    And must have a REST period of no less then 10 Hours including one continuous period of 6 Hours.


    Which means: you can shut it down for 6 hours then roll on, and within 24 hours of you starting your day you must make up another 4 hours either off duty OR In the Sleeper Berth.



    In any peroid of 168 Hours

    DRIVER you must not DRIVE OR WORK for more than a total of 72 hours

    AND must have a REST peroid of no less than 96 hours including one continuous peroid of 24 hours.

    THAT MEANS MIN HOME TIME OF 24 HOURS

    I have run under these HOS in Australia and DRIVERS whom have more then one year OTR are eligible for
    Transitional Fatigue Management Scheme.

    Its a half day class that entitles the driver to drive for upto 14 hours in any period of 24 hours and upto a total of 144 hours in any period of 14 days.
    WHICH MEANS: you can DRIVER OR WORK a Additional 2 hours
    Making your total driving hours in any 24 Hour peroid 14 Hours


    In my opinion this makes for safer highways/roadways allowing the drivers to stop and have a 6 hour sleep which most of us do. then were having to sit and wait for 10 hours to roll by which is a total waste of time.

    If the Dept of transport wants us to be honest about what were doing they need to be honest about what's really happening out there.

    We need flexibilty in our drving times just like flexibitiy is demanded of us on the roads dealing with traffic, construction, accidents and at our shippers and recievers

    Having to stop for 15 every 2 1/2 or stopping every 5 hours is not bad at all any good operator likes to check chains/straps and kick some tires every so often so thats not a problem. And hey he or she may even need to pee.


    YOUR COMMENTS PLEASE.


    US DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORT ARE YOU LISTENING??
     
    Last edited: Jun 7, 2009
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  3. bigcountry30

    bigcountry30 Light Load Member

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    Sounds very similar to the old HOS we use to have with a few exceptions.
     
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  4. 25(2)+2

    25(2)+2 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    That might work pretty well. Do the use EOBR devices down under?
     
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  5. Chain Drive

    Chain Drive Medium Load Member

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    I like the idea of taking 15/30 min. breaks I take them anyway, just with a rule change I wouldn't need to hide them anymore
     
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  6. RIBS

    RIBS Bobtail Member

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    Im not sure what EOBR stands for,, but they do have this thing called SAFE T CAM

    and it basically takes your speed , picture, scans your lic plate and records your location.

    if you hit another SAFE T CAM within the allowed time frame they send you out a speeding ticket in the mail.

    I remember once my friend was speeding, holding the phone to his head, not wearing a safety belt and he got three tickets in the mail close to 900.00 dollars worth.

    revenue raising is huge in Australia, they do have free medical and if you dont want to work the goverment is all so happy to pay you too stay home.


    I was going threw Arizona the other day and noticed they have camera's allong the highways now. I guess it's starting here also.

    How we got arround the SAFE T CAMS is to go as fast as you like and stop just short of the CAM and have a little power nap.
     
  7. Chain Drive

    Chain Drive Medium Load Member

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    E-lectronic
    O-n
    B-oard
    R-ecorder

    or something like that, black box for trucks
     
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  8. 25(2)+2

    25(2)+2 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    EOBR stands for Electronic On Board Recorder. Safety cams are on big roads and in population centers, not so much on the primary and secondary highways.
     
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  9. RIBS

    RIBS Bobtail Member

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    This is the thing we should not have to hide anyhting, were doing our jobs and as long as we can prove to do it safely, then that should be enough.

    It's all about your safety record. and your driving history/length

    It takes min 5/6 years before you can sit behind a big truck in Australia

    You first need to have your car licence which you have had for at least 4 years
    cause over in Australia you get your car lic and its only a learner permit must have learner permit for min 6 mths and display a L plate in your vehicle.

    then after you take your driving test which is nothing like the laughable test i took here many years ago.

    then you get what they call a provisional permit and you must have a huge P plate on or next to your lic plate.. so what this does is let everyone know you are a new driver of a car and you are only allowed i think two mistakes and you need to keep this on your car for 3 years ,, after that you can then go obtain your blacks which is your car driving licence..

    now then with that you can go and apply to get your LR which light rigid (straight truck) upto 15,000 GVM (six wheeler)

    after having that for one year you can go get your

    HR which is heavy rigid truck lic ( ten wheeler )

    When I started you could not go straight from LR to HR you needed to get your MR and have that for one year MR= Medium rigid

    ok so you got your HR=heavy rigid truck lic (35,000 +GVM) and you need to have that for min one year then you can now go for a driving test and get your HC=Heavy combination
    (18 wheler) in our case 22 wheeler we mainly have tri axle trailer.

    After another year you can go obtain your MC= Multiple Combination (B-Double) OR (Road Train)

    so every semi trailer driver over in Australia has min of 6 years driving experience.
     
    Last edited: Jun 7, 2009
  10. PINEAPPLE

    PINEAPPLE Bobtail Member

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    You don't need to stop and eat your lunch, eat your lunch while you are driving. I don't care, just get the freight to the dock. :biggrin_25516:
    ... Okay, as long as you eat your lunch while you're working, Dock Guy. :biggrin_2552:
     
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  11. GRAYMATTERS

    GRAYMATTERS Light Load Member

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    As far a HOS is concerned, I say...... FLEXIBILITY, FLEXIBILITY, FLEXIBILITY!!!!!!

    The Aussies seem to have a much better system than we currently have.
     
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