Split Break question

To my understanding this is the scenario (and how I will explain my conclusion which may be wrong)

on duty for 1.75 hours
off duty(includes sleeper) for 4.25 hours
on duty for 8 hours
off duty for 8

(1) the combination of 1.75 hours and 4.25 hours only leaves 8 hours left to drive to finish out his 14 hour clock.
(2)since his 1st break and 2nd break total 10 or more hours of off duty, his next on duty is able to be a full 11 hours.

I may be wrong, but this is my understanding of the rule, and so far I have been DOT'd 3x where split sleepers were involved and all were ok.

 

The way I understand it, both driving periods on either side of the 8 hour break can not total over the 11 hours driving rule. He would come up one hour short on drive time.

 

he has 6 hrs left on his 14 hour clock, you count forward from the end of the first break, his 11 hr clock includes any drive time after the 1st brk

 

The split beak has to be 2 and 8 (2 hour nap, 8 hour nap...both logged in the sleeper. Not 5 and 5, 4 and 6....2 and 8, DOT says so if they haven't changed it since 2006)

Split breaking has no effect on the 11 hour driving rule...none (still only drive 11 hours)

It does allow you to take a 2 hour nap at a slow shipper or receiver and then add that 2 hours to your 14.

And...this is what burns most people on split breaking and gets them HOS violations, to get back on regular schedule you must take a full 10 hour break.

 

In this case the 4.25 hour break would qualify for te 2 hour portion of the split logging. Those 2 hours min do not need to be logged in the sleeper. Only the 8 hour period needs to be logged in the sleeper. The problem here is split logginf split your 11 hours too. The drive time on either side of the 8 hour sleeper berth period can not go over 11 hours total without having another 2 hour break.

Clear as mud??

 

He doesn't violate the 14 hour rule. The first calculation period goes like this:

1.75 line 3
4.25 line 1
7.00 line 3

13 hours total (8.75 driving)

From the second calculation point he has:

7.00 line 3
8.00 line 2 (not included in 14 hour calculation)
5.00 line 3

12 hours total (12 driving which is a no no)

 

you have to take the 8 first to extend the 14 by 8. the 2 first does NOT extend the 14 by 2. is what i am told

 

Wheres that DOT guy at when you need him...LOL.

I don't think its legal to extend the 14 by 8 hours no matter how you split it...and who in their right mind would want to? (no offense...just my opinion there)

Split breaking was only meant to give 2 hours back.

 

The two breaks start a new 11/14 starting at the end of the first break. He drove 8 hrs after the 1st break so he has 6 on duty and 3 driving left before needing a 2 hr break again