Pre-trip inspection after a post trip requirements

We only have to log one so I always log my post trip. I do this because if I find something wrong with the truck during my pretrip, at least I have time to fix it since my clock has not started. If I log on duty for my pretrip, the 14 he has now started. I only log a pre trip if I've been off the truck for a few days. I always do a pre trip but save that valuable time on my clock.

 

The law states the driver must be satisfied with his equipment it doesn't require a specific amount of time, however, if a DOT officer asks your driver to do a pretrip do you think he can do a full level one style pretrip in 2-3 minutes? I believe this is why companies usually require a 15 minute pretrip. I personally do 12-15 minutes for a pretrip and 2-3 minutes for a post trip even if I do it in less time. CYA

 

I'm curious, why does it NEED to be part of the regs for a driver to want to do the inspections?

 

Have you never met a driver? As a group we are lazy.
Actually I think it has more to do with how we are paid more than anything. Back when I was cpm or trip I'd the the absolute minimum so I could get moving to make money. Now that I'm paid by the hour I take as long as needed to go over the equipment.

 

LOL, ours are hourly yet they still seem to fight a real inspection. They do it but in the "roll of the eyes and grumble" kind of way.

I need to just get my CDL and see what happens. Guess who will be delivering the trucks when the guys don't want to after THAT.

 

Well that's definitely one way to go about it.

 

On duty and on the remarks click safety check. Thats what i use for when i pull at the rest stop to check the tarps and chains every could hundred miles

 

Back in the good ol days before 9/11, you had to stop and kick the tires every 100 miles and log it when you had a Hazmat load. The guberment put a stop to it because they thought a terrorist was hiding behind every bush along the interstate and would try to hijack you.
Imagine having to do that today with ELD's.

 

The fricken police can write anyone a ticket for anything. We are, unfortunately, guilty until we can prove our innocence. If you like going to court, then do your own interpretation of the laws. I defended myself and won just a couple months ago (weight restricted road). My recommendation is to log it every single time. The new ELD's we have now is nothing more than a revenue generator for the law. I will go to court EVERY time I get a ticket, don't care where it's at... with my same 6 stacks of paperwork as 2 months ago. Most of my paperwork wasn't even relevant, I was simply going to make them waste a butt load of time on my case and get my money's worth. Magically, my case was dismissed during my cross examination of the officer.

 

Pre trip is required I could see them asking about it if they going to drive from 10 hours break

 

First off what’s a level one style pre-trip. Secondly I guess a “DOT” guy can ask you to do anything he wants including pre-trip inspections, physics problems, calculus problems and dye his hair but you are not obliged to do any of them.