Research Project - Replacing diesel engines... PLEASE HELP

Discussion in 'Questions To Truckers From The General Public' started by GBeach, Jul 6, 2009.

Would you replace your diesel engine for a more efficient turbine engine?

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    Yes, if it helps.

    30.8%
  2. I would like to, but the cost of replacement would stop me.

    10.3%
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    No, I trust diesel engines more.

    51.3%
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    No, I simply do not want to.

    25.6%
  1. GBeach

    GBeach Bobtail Member

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    Hello all,
    I am a Marketing Major at the University of New Hampshire, and am working on a market research paper. Basically, I am trying to figure out if there is any demand in the trucking market for a new non-diesel engine. There are companies on the rise who are investing in and researching gas turbine engines. Many of these engines can match the power output of today's diesel engines and are more efficient, not to mention better for the environment. There are few moving parts, which means less service, and the engines can run on almost any combustible liquid. My question to all of you is:

    If replacing the standard diesel engines with a more advanced turbine engine was a viable, inexpensive operation, would you, as truckers/owners, want a more efficient engine, that in the long run will save money on fuel and service, all while helping the environment?

    Please feel free to respond with any comments, questions, or any information that you may have on this new technology. Any help here is greatly appreciated.

    Thank You,
    GBeach
     
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  3. KO1927

    KO1927 Medium Load Member

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    Can these engines be maintained by the driver, or are we talking highly specialized technicians? That would be a serious concern for owner-operators. On that note, how extensive would the training for the existing diesel tech's be. Another thing to consider is infrastructure. Most gasoline pumps are inaccessible to a 70 foot long vehicle.


    Side note: my sister graduated from UNH in '03 it's a good school and good luck with the project.
     
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  4. GRAYMATTERS

    GRAYMATTERS Light Load Member

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    Gas turbine engines are nothing new..... they've been around for decades..... If there was any real possibility that turbines would replace diesels, it would have happened a long, long time ago.

    If you do an internet search, you'll find plenty of info on them. The latest "headline" grabber is TTE, inc., but I think that all their "HYPE" is geared towards obtaining research money, rather than any real attempt to go to market with a viable product.

    After "decades" of research, you would've thought that someone would have brought the technology to market by now.

    "Smoke and mirrors" I tell ya.......... "Smoke and mirrors".
     
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  5. Powell-Peralta

    Powell-Peralta Road Train Member

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    Turbines are definitely simplier than conventional engines, but are they really more efficient?

    We need to really research this area, then report back.
     
  6. GRAYMATTERS

    GRAYMATTERS Light Load Member

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    There's been decades of research...... What's to research?

    Like I said..... If turbine engines were a realistic alternative to diesel engines, it would have happened a long time ago.
     
  7. Frenzy

    Frenzy Medium Load Member

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    Diesel engines require very little service in normal operation. The oil and oil and fuel filters changed every 30k miles, about 4 times a year. It seems to me that lubrication for a turbine would run about the same.

    I've seen a big marine diesel being run on a slurry of oil and powered coal. I've read of one fleet in California (in the 90's) that was fueled by ethanol. There are diesels that a designed to be run on natural gas. And who knows what kind of junk homebrewers of biodiesel have run thru their engines.

    I am interested in the lowest cost per mile. If a turbine can deliver it, I will buy into it. I think that a turbine is not the answer.

    Ken
     
  8. Truck Driver

    Truck Driver Medium Load Member

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    Freightliner had one back in the 60's and it never became a popular alternative. The gas turbine big truck was tried and failed.
     
  9. halfburn

    halfburn Medium Load Member

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    You would be better off checking out the ATA (American Trucking Assc)
    and probing around their site. You are talking end users here and as I can point out the seats a lot of us are tortured with everyday that what the end user wants or uses is of little consequence to the big byers that influence the manufacturers.
    http://www.truckline.com/AdvIssues/engineering/Pages/default.aspx
     
  10. stranger

    stranger Road Train Member

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    There was a big article about a Mack with a turbine engine in it in the late 70's. This truck was ran with loads, and a complete summary of the whole test process was recounted.

    The best I can remember it ran alright, but the efficency and upkeep were a major drawback.
     
  11. kwray

    kwray Medium Load Member

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    What I don't understand is how a turbine would be more efficient than a reciprocating engine. They are more efficient in aircraft, but only at higher altitudes where the air is thinner and produces less drag.
     
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