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Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by jjpaez123, Oct 11, 2019.

  1. WiggleWagon

    WiggleWagon Light Load Member

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    3 pallets @950 each 2 wont be enough, and the drives need to be at 34000.
     
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  3. daf105paccar

    daf105paccar Road Train Member

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    Do you have a sliding fithwheel?
     
  4. starmac

    starmac Road Train Member

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    Guys, when I shipped hay, if you came in without fuel, that was your problem. I loaded the truck, if it was over gross, I pulled some off, if it was over axle, but legal on gross, I would move anything to where ever you wanted it, but it stayed on the truck.
    He should be able to go back and get some removed, if it isn't more hassle than it is worth, but they may just remove one pallet. I would fuel up and reweigh before I went back.
     
  5. Chinatown

    Chinatown Road Train Member

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    Good idea. Fill up with fuel, then weigh again and take it back and show the new weight ticket. Don't show the first ticket.
     
  6. LoboSolo

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    Depends where you're coming and going to. If you're on a long trip or running through a hardass state, go ahead and rework it. 1 pallet usually equals one ton for my loads.

    If you've got 12 rows x 2 pallets wide for your load, then remove 1 pallet from the 6th row from the front, making that row a single, you'll have room for 1/2 tanks of fuel and you'll be good to roll legally. If your pallets are really only 950 lb each, then remove 2 of these from the 6th row from the front (just in front of the trailers midpoint)

    Without doing that, if you can run non-interstate roads and don't go driving past scales I would move the 5th wheel back maybe 1 hole to lighten up the steers by 200-250 lbs and move the tandems 3 holes forward. You're shifting roughly 900-1200 lbs from your drives to your tandems this way.

    If you end up with steers at about 11900, drives at 34200 and tandems at 34600, you could throw in 60 gallons of fuel at a time and end up at about 12200, 34400 and 34600 and most cops wouldnt give a crap. Scaleboys might.

    Suggestions: 1) make sure your rigs in order and no obvious problems to give them a reason to pull you over in the first place 2)check your tire ratings on the sidewall. I'm legal to 12,350 on my steers. 3) If they plan on loading you depending on your empty weight, ALWAYS fill your tanks before showing up to get loaded. 4)By spreading the weight out, you should only be 400-500 over at each point. You can fix er in 10 minutes this way, or create a new enemy in 2 hours by making them rework the problem YOU created.

    Dont be a boyscout all the time, run the load sometimes just for the heck of it. Fine aint that big for the first 1000 lbs. over IF you get caught. Different story if it was 10,000 lbs. Grow a pair and git her done.
     
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  7. starmac

    starmac Road Train Member

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    Depending on where he is, the fine will not be the kicker, it is the getting legal before moving that can get expensive, that said I would have done been gone if getting it right was going to be a hassle, there are very few places that you can't get around the scales.
     
  8. craig_sez

    craig_sez Road Train Member

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    So you want him to move a thousand lbs to the steers when he is already 12060 and run tight on fuel when he is already running almost empty on fuel???
    Hope you dont drive...
     
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  9. starmac

    starmac Road Train Member

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    Every day, and maybe you need to check most states limits on steers, if you drive.
    My steers stay at 13.500 anytime I am full of fuel, and I fuel right before I cross the scales 9 out of 10 loads.
    There is not a whole lot of states in the lower 48 that you can't miss the scales anyway. and 1000 over costs what, in lowsiana it is a whole 10 bucks.
     
  10. craig_sez

    craig_sez Road Train Member

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    Usually its a buck a pound aint it?
     
  11. starmac

    starmac Road Train Member

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    Not even in most states for the first few thousands. The max I have paid was 1600 for 10,000 over in ks once, like I said in lowsiana it is a penny a pound up to a certain amount. I am not sure what that amount is, but I know it is over 1500 because I had a 15 dollar fine there once and they can't fine you again for 24 hours, nor does it go on any record. Here the first 1000 is free, but after 500 you do get wrote up and a paper work inspection.
     
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